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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Slightly off topic.
I need to sharpen some kitchen knives. I'd like to do it myself. Any tutorials out there for how to do it properly? TIA!! |
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Let's... Wait 'til next year.
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The Cook's Illustrated folks [America's Test Kitchen, Cook's Country] like this one.
http://www.cutleryandmore.com/cc130.htm ![]() Okay, yeah, you're not really sharpening it yourself, but you'll likely get better results. WA. |
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Join Date: May 2003
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How do electric sharpeners, like the one pictured above, compare to old school stones? I understand that it's easier to sharpen knives on them due to keeping the angle constant, but do they really work as advertised? I ask because on the surface, they are kind of pricey, but when you compare them to the cost of a good set of 3 or 4 stones, they might not appear to be so high.
I've only used stones, and I can get an edge good enough for daily use, but I've never been able to get a scary sharp, shaving sharp edge on my knives. Would I be better off investing in one of the electric models or just keep practicing on my stones? If the electric ones are good enough for fine kitchen knives, I suppose they are good enough for my EDC knives. After all, chefs make their living with their knives, and I just open letters, cut boxes, apples, etc. with mine. Thanks for any help you guys can offer.
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Let's... Wait 'til next year.
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I would offer that sharpening knives on stones is a skill, an art, learned with years and patience. A skilled bladesmith can undoubtedly get a finer edge using stones.
But I'm not that guy. The electric sharpener does an excellent job, and I don't have to spend hours with stones and oil. Now, if one wanted to learn the sharpening art, that's another matter. WA. |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Indianapolis, IN
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I agree with WA.
I've tried, but never gained the knack of pro-grade sharpening. Lately, all the knives I buy include a lifetime sharpening pledge, for the price of postage. KITCHEN KNIVES .... I've let my thread drift, and gave 'fous a pass. ![]() But now .... back to the blade that started it all ! ![]() This blade will cut you (5) ways ..... long, deep, wide, often, and with pleasure. ![]()
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I've got a damascus coming from him.
I have actually learned to sharpen the blades on my tools using water stones pretty well. I can make them so sharp they are very dangerous. But they are generally flat blades with a dual bevel on one side. I would imagine these stones I use would be perfect for sharpening knives, but that's a different skill set. The stones I use are expensive but work beautifully. The latest from Japan. Norton makes decent water stones as well. Much cheaper and made here.
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I'll be anxious to see a photo of your custom camp knife, after it arrives.
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Thanks guys. If I can, let me ask another couple of sharpening questions with regards to the electric unit shown above. Is that a decent one to buy, or should I look elsewhere? Not knowing anything about electric sharpeners, I'm sure there are tons of really crappy ones out there. If I'm spending the dosh on a sharpener, I want to get one that: fits my budget, works extremely well, and will sharpen almost any knife I have (folders, fixed blade hunting, serrated, and yes.....kitchen knives).
Thanks again. BTW, hopefully this thread keeps going and going. I'm very interested in knives and enjoy learning about custom makes as well as good 'off the shelf' pieces.
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I've had a set of Henkels 4 Star knives for over twenty years... Best investment I ever made.
...and yes! They're kitchen knives.
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The American Sector
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I've got that electric model that Red posted.
It sharpens, but I think there's a better edge to be had. I took some blades to a shop here to have them worked on. If he can get them sharp, then I'll give it a go nevt time. |
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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In my nightstand drawer...daily use stuff.
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It makes sharpening pocket knives properly impossible. It was designed for kitchen cutlery where the blade extends far below the handle.
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Join Date: May 2003
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Just ordered a Little Hindu myself. Never had a Damascus blade before but will be glad when the knife is here. Another great custom maker is Chris Reeve, I've got one of his "Pacific's". Former South African, now an American.
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Raptor Katana
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Sha-wing!!!
I like swords.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Good to find some like-minded folks.
Thanks for showing off all your cool stuff, it's hard to talk about this sort of thing in any club or collectors groups down here, because the state government is using draconian laws as a supposed "war on knife crime", to distract the media from the fact that they are a useless bunch of ****s. Even with appropriate reason and permits, a person still gets given a hard time. Here you go: ![]() ![]() ![]() * (Dear Mr Local Policeman, if you are reading this you will be glad to know that I have all the correct permits and exemptions for these items, and can provide proof when needed).
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![]() I want one of those so bad. Do you mind me asking what the damascus blade will cost? What's his website again? EDIT: found the website.
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$250? Something like that.
Not too bad at all.
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