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jredford · 11-25-2010, 06:14 PM

Beet - Good advice, thank you.

chosek · 11-25-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jredford

Ok, got the green light to pull the trigger on a 7d...are there any reasons I shouldn't? What else should I look at (Canon) since I have so many lenses?

What other accessories will I need if I go this way? It seems like the SD cards are different from my T1i as are the batteries and the grip.

Finally, should I buy new or used, I am really indifferent?

You definitely wont be sorry its a superb camera......
If you can buy Brand New, it takes CF cards.
I love my 7D....

VA_rider · 11-25-2010, 08:26 PM

The 7d is awesome.... i've been tossing around the idea of picking up a second one for a backup.... origionally, I was thinking about a 30d/40d as a backup... but they don't compare....

Get some good, fast CF cards..... and the zeikos grip is $100 less than the canon grip...

drfous · 11-25-2010, 08:52 PM

Newegg is selling the S95 for $100 off on Black Friday.

Code EMCZZNT23

hotcam · 11-25-2010, 10:30 PM

Maybe we ALL need to bin our DSLR's and go buy compacts...

http://thenextweb.com/me/2010/11/23/...now-in-effect/

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news...d=MzAwMTg4ODg1

(or not, freedom hating dictating bureacrats can go **** themselves)

hotcam · 11-26-2010, 04:04 AM

Fashion shoot worked out well

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 05:32 AM

Thanks Ed. Taking a closer look this morning, some turned out better (sharper) than I thought and some of the others seem to be a fudged focus point. Still sifting through them, but it's looking like my fault

Anyone know what sort of DOF I get on the 50 1.8 if I'm shooting in the mid f2 range? How far do I need to stop down for a decent portrait DOF?

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 05:45 AM

Here's a 100% crop. This was shot at f3.2 and the focus point was right between his eyes. The fingers are already starting to loose focus. Perhaps I need to stop down or switch back to more than a single center focus point.

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 05:50 AM

Here's question that "crops" up in my mind

If I switch back from a single center focus point to multiple focus points, but continue shooting in manual mode, how will that affect the shot? The way I understand focus points is that there is a single flat plane of focus that the camera can see. Do multiple focus points make that plane of focus more 3d or deeper? How does that affect DOF?

I'm envisioning a situation where the focus points grab things in the foreground as well as the background to focus on.

ryan the geek · 11-26-2010, 06:14 AM

Wife approval is 9/10ths of the law! Go for it Jred! Congrats.

Hotcam, looked like a fun shoot. what was the lighting like?

Strain, AF with a fast lens can be tricky. I have always manually selected my focus point, this way i know what the camera is selecting for focus. If you shoot wide open, having your focus off just a tad can mean disaster. I used to always use center an recompose, but found that it sometimes wouldn't hit focus because i moved just a tad.

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 06:16 AM

Good shots Hotcam! That seems like a huge challenge, but a lot of fun.

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 06:18 AM

Ryan, what do you mean by "manually selected my focus point"? As in you use MF or instead of centerpoint focusing and then recomposing, you compose and then choose the focus point that is closest?

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 06:20 AM

Not quite 100% crop, but it is zoomed in a fair bit. My grandmom looking on at the Thanksgiving goings ons...

jredford · 11-26-2010, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotcam

Fashion shoot worked out well

HC - my sympathies for such a awful assignment. Do you need an assistant?

BTW Nice shots!

ryan the geek · 11-26-2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstrain

Ryan, what do you mean by "manually selected my focus point"? As in you use MF or instead of centerpoint focusing and then recomposing, you compose and then choose the focus point that is closest?

Yeah I select the closest focus point to the subject I want to focus on, then the decompose is very close.

hammer · 11-26-2010, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstrain

Here's a 100% crop. This was shot at f3.2 and the focus point was right between his eyes. The fingers are already starting to loose focus. Perhaps I need to stop down or switch back to more than a single center focus point.

No .... you need to start 'MANUALLY' focusing the lens. Auto-focus is simply not accurate enough for that type of shot !

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 08:19 AM

I tried a bit of MF, but he moves around too much to be able to take candid shots. He's a squirmy little bugger

Plus the low light made it really tough for me to tell if I was sharp or not. I suspect I need more practice!

hammer · 11-26-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstrain

I tried a bit of MF, but he moves around too much to be able to take candid shots. He's a squirmy little bugger

Plus the low light made it really tough for me to tell if I was sharp or not. I suspect I need more practice!

I know it's not easy to do .... my kitty is similar..... jumps around like a bed-bug !

hammer · 11-26-2010, 08:22 AM

..... the only other solution I see is to use a smaller aperture ( f/8, or so)

jstrain · 11-26-2010, 08:25 AM

Is that how far I need to stop down for a reasonable DOF? I need to do a bit of practice with the flash to balance that out.

On the whole, I'm happy with the shots. After cropping to get rid of the boring factor, some are turning into good photos. I'm glad I went with the flash. I'd have never been able to get any useful shots without it.

11-25-2010, 06:14 PM	#12821
jredford Musical Metal Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 11,873	Beet - Good advice, thank you. __________________ 2003 GSXR 600 Tracked 2005 BMW R1200 RT 2006 FZ1 2007 CRF450X Tarded

11-25-2010, 08:26 PM	#12823
VA_rider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 7,272	The 7d is awesome.... i've been tossing around the idea of picking up a second one for a backup.... origionally, I was thinking about a 30d/40d as a backup... but they don't compare.... Get some good, fast CF cards..... and the zeikos grip is $100 less than the canon grip... __________________ Where else on your body can you get poop, wipe it with a piece of paper, and call it good?

11-25-2010, 10:30 PM	#12825
hotcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Down Under, Australia Posts: 414	Maybe we ALL need to bin our DSLR's and go buy compacts... http://thenextweb.com/me/2010/11/23/...now-in-effect/ http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news...d=MzAwMTg4ODg1 (or not, freedom hating dictating bureacrats can go ** themselves) __________________ "And they had a machine, a dream of a machine, with wheels and gears and perfect in every respect; and they lived on it"** - Lem, 'Cyberiad' FZR1040 Track: Racetech/Ohlins susp, Brembo/ Bluspot/HEL/radial brakes, forged pistons, overcompressed 12.7:1, Burgess head, Hallam block, Moriwaki/Sudco 4-1, FP Carbs, MSD MC3+ Ignition, K+N. FZ-1S sleeper:Full fairing, Yam knobs, Yam hard bags, Airbox mod+BMC, FPro Velocity Stacks, FCE, PC3 (Duke Perfect 6/20/10), Cut Short Yoshi TRC 4-2-1.

11-26-2010, 04:04 AM	#12826
hotcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Down Under, Australia Posts: 414	Fashion shoot worked out well __________________ "And they had a machine, a dream of a machine, with wheels and gears and perfect in every respect; and they lived on it" - Lem, 'Cyberiad' FZR1040 Track: Racetech/Ohlins susp, Brembo/ Bluspot/HEL/radial brakes, forged pistons, overcompressed 12.7:1, Burgess head, Hallam block, Moriwaki/Sudco 4-1, FP Carbs, MSD MC3+ Ignition, K+N. FZ-1S sleeper:Full fairing, Yam knobs, Yam hard bags, Airbox mod+BMC, FPro Velocity Stacks, FCE, PC3 (Duke Perfect 6/20/10), Cut Short Yoshi TRC 4-2-1.

11-26-2010, 05:32 AM	#12827
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Thanks Ed. Taking a closer look this morning, some turned out better (sharper) than I thought and some of the others seem to be a fudged focus point. Still sifting through them, but it's looking like my fault Anyone know what sort of DOF I get on the 50 1.8 if I'm shooting in the mid f2 range? How far do I need to stop down for a decent portrait DOF? __________________ -Jeremy

11-25-2010, 08:52 PM	#12824
drfous Happy Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The American Sector Posts: 12,123	Newegg is selling the S95 for $100 off on Black Friday. Code EMCZZNT23

11-26-2010, 05:45 AM	#12828
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Here's a 100% crop. This was shot at f3.2 and the focus point was right between his eyes. The fingers are already starting to loose focus. Perhaps I need to stop down or switch back to more than a single center focus point. __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 05:50 AM	#12829
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Here's question that "crops" up in my mind If I switch back from a single center focus point to multiple focus points, but continue shooting in manual mode, how will that affect the shot? The way I understand focus points is that there is a single flat plane of focus that the camera can see. Do multiple focus points make that plane of focus more 3d or deeper? How does that affect DOF? I'm envisioning a situation where the focus points grab things in the foreground as well as the background to focus on. __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 06:14 AM	#12830
ryan the geek Stinky Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 2,955	Wife approval is 9/10ths of the law! Go for it Jred! Congrats. Hotcam, looked like a fun shoot. what was the lighting like? Strain, AF with a fast lens can be tricky. I have always manually selected my focus point, this way i know what the camera is selecting for focus. If you shoot wide open, having your focus off just a tad can mean disaster. I used to always use center an recompose, but found that it sometimes wouldn't hit focus because i moved just a tad.

11-26-2010, 06:16 AM	#12831
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Good shots Hotcam! That seems like a huge challenge, but a lot of fun. __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 06:18 AM	#12832
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Ryan, what do you mean by "manually selected my focus point"? As in you use MF or instead of centerpoint focusing and then recomposing, you compose and then choose the focus point that is closest? __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 06:20 AM	#12833
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Not quite 100% crop, but it is zoomed in a fair bit. My grandmom looking on at the Thanksgiving goings ons... __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 08:19 AM	#12837
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	I tried a bit of MF, but he moves around too much to be able to take candid shots. He's a squirmy little bugger Plus the low light made it really tough for me to tell if I was sharp or not. I suspect I need more practice! __________________ -Jeremy

11-26-2010, 08:22 AM	#12839
hammer Inside Out Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 11,297	..... the only other solution I see is to use a smaller aperture ( f/8, or so) __________________ "The most massive characters are seared with scars" ___ Kahlil Gibran

11-26-2010, 08:25 AM	#12840
jstrain I Love Scotch! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 4,986	Is that how far I need to stop down for a reasonable DOF? I need to do a bit of practice with the flash to balance that out. On the whole, I'm happy with the shots. After cropping to get rid of the boring factor, some are turning into good photos. I'm glad I went with the flash. I'd have never been able to get any useful shots without it. __________________ -Jeremy

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