Custom PCIII Maps

[knightrider]

I'm starting to enjoy and understand the pc3 and map carry on, so today i put
whittleB smoothed average 4 map, and it was smooth. Worked out i was getting 32 mpg but was very full on with abig fcukin smile most of the time

Tomoro gonna give Lars map in the stage 2 a try, but i would like to know which map is jondaddy's as it supposed to be in the pack ?? If not where is it ??

I'm also starting to think if you want good mpg out of this bike ride it softly but if you want to enjoy the bikes full potential, and added great big smile, ride the bike hard. Yes the mpg will suffer but the fun factor wont ;)

and what was the outcome DrWood to your last post on here??

[Duken4evr]

The JD map is in the tuner map folder in the "Stage III" subfolder.

There is also a handy PDF file in the pack that explains the configs each map is meant for. There are a lot of maps in there, but they are actually quite logically organized.

Enjoy the map fiddling madness.

[SoCalFZRider]

Hey Duke, Whittlebeast. Installed a PCIII on my bone stock 09, baselined Whittlebeast's stage0 smoothed map with some additional adjustments from looking at Dynojet's map. No analytical instrumentation used. Thanks for getting me started.

Runs geat, very smooth, excellent response. Here is what I am running...until the slip-on gets installed.

Change the .txt to .xls and take a look if you like.

[Duken4evr]

Good to hear the map made it run better!

[DirtyD]

Dynojets website has a map for a european model, with Arrow exhaust, stock or aftermarket filter, and no 02 sensor.....I have a Arrow exhaust, descreened filter, Airbox mod, can I use that or is the Euro thing gonna throw it off, and do i have to to the throttle open close things everytime.....thanks...oh wanted to use bc of the Arrow exhaust

[nantheless]

Originally Posted by Duken4evr

Well, after all these months of testing and map tweaking, I think I am finally done. The latest "Hybrid" map in my pack works the best of everything I have tried. I don't think my FZ1 can run any better with map tweaking. It runs clean, smooth and fast and it is very responsive. Best news of all perhaps, the gas mileage this last ride was 46 mpg, the best I have gotten in the 8,500 miles I have ridden my bike. I usually get 40-42mpg. Just a whiff of throttle has the bike surging forward. It no longer gargles and feels put upon if given the gas at low and midrange rpm. The pull from 7,000 rpm on is awe inspiring. It feels very "tuned".

I am also using the "accelerator pump" feature, with 90% sensitivity, 25 rotations and 17% fuel add.

If your bike has mods like those listed in my signature, give the Hybrid map a try. Link to the map pack also in my signature. Stock headers and a slip on should work well with it too.

Duken, I can't seem to locate the hybrid map in your map pack. Is it still in the map pack?

[Duken4evr]

Well, I lied The Hybrid map was updated and smoothed . The latest maps are in the pack. The one I am running now I called "perfection" and it has been in the bike longer than any other to date

[SoCalFZRider]

Updated map. Gen II Graves slip-on, O2 disconnect, descreened filter, otherwise stock.

Runs great, very smooth, excellent response. Crisp & clean. Ride most miles 3 to 7k feet altitude.

This is a hybrid map - Whittlebeast's stage 1 bottom end, Duke's stage 1 tuner top end, joined together at the zero crossing between 3.5 and 4.5k rpm with very few adjustments needed.

Change the .txt to .xls.

[Klint]

Got a Euro spec FZ1.

Got a custom map for 08 FZ1 running Lars airbox mod, manifold de-cat, leovince GP Pro slip on (no baffle) and K&N filter w/ PCIII. Makes just shy of 150hp atw and cost me $350to have mapped (and a full tank of petrol!) but will have it available for the FZ1 forum if there's interest in the set up.

[pierro6]

I'd like to see that map please mate -I'm in Scotland running very nearly that set-up and I'd be interested to see how it compares with the others.......

[Klint]

Originally Posted by pierro6

I'd like to see that map please mate -I'm in Scotland running very nearly that set-up and I'd be interested to see how it compares with the others.......

PM your e-mail. I'll send it your way.

[knightrider]

Well after not doing any mods for a while i decided to cut my flies down following copperdogs tutorial on u-tube, Thanks CD.
After it was all back together i decided to put jondaddy's map on and away i went.............It amazes me that every time i've done a mod how much difference they have made and cutting the flies was no exception, in fact i would say it is probably the most significant one yet. The bike use to be a bit hesitant from 0mph but now the response is instant, its like a different bike, more aggressive, definitely more torque and even a little bit scary( in a good way ).

So now i'm expecting my mpg to drop considerably but to my surprise from full to brim to when the trip flashes i've had 107 and 102, 102 was mostly two up.( just my way of judging it) compared to before flies mod about 110/115.

I have a couple of question, what difference will a full exhaust give compared to just a slip-on, as i friend of mine has been told "no point doing any mods along with pc3 unless you have full system" i replied "Bull shit" as i can verify from what i've done, but he is now convinced (More fool him as hes missing out lol)

and.... if i put the perfection map on without full system and only cut down flies instead of removed what will be the most likely result. Its just i want to try it as Duken says its the dogsbollox ;)

[knightrider]

I realy dont want to get a full system, as funding is getting low

[UK Pete]

Originally Posted by knightrider

I realy dont want to get a full system, as funding is getting low

I dont think there is a great difference between a full system and having a slip on with decated headers, if there is its probably minimal compared to cost,
I am saving up my pennies so i can get a custom map, i just love playing with the maps on hear,( thanks guys for making them available) but feel the ultimate is to get a custom dyno map for my bike
I was quoted £220 for the map the other week so its only about the same cost as a slip on , every one i have spoken to says that once you finish all the mods you should get it mapped ,and you wont believe the difference.
Pete

[knightrider]

Originally Posted by UK Pete

I dont think there is a great difference between a full system and having a slip on with decated headers, if there is its probably minimal compared to cost,
I am saving up my pennies so i can get a custom map, i just love playing with the maps on hear,( thanks guys for making them available) but feel the ultimate is to get a custom dyno map for my bike
I was quoted £220 for the map the other week so its only about the same cost as a slip on , every one i have spoken to says that once you finish all the mods you should get it mapped ,and you wont believe the difference.
Pete

Correct me if i'm wrong Pete, but i had my bike set up when i first got the pc3 fitted by an authorised dyno dealer so is that "getting it custom ed mapped"?

He set it up/mapped it and i was getting 147 at the rear wheel, all i had done was de-cated it and removed the O2 sensor and remus powercone on. It wasnt untill i got into the modding from on here and playing with the maps that i then started getting better mpg and better performance, i dont know the HP now in figures but you can just tell its more by feel, if you ride alot you get to know your bike so well, its like a partner, so when its performing well ...you know;)

I dont want to put you off mate, and will be interested in the result if you get it custom ed mapped but i would save your pennies and get new brake lines, lol

I'm saying that as mine is costing me £155 for hels and then about £110 to fit them, Damn ABS ;)
Dave

[TYR1]

If you own a gen 1 or a gen 2 this is true. Ive heard a few guys on this website saying that their fz1 runs great on 87 octane or regular gas.What they dont know WILL HURT THEM.The fz1 was never intended to run on anything less than 93 octane gas.These bikes sport a race engine with 11.5.1 {gen2}or an 11.4.1[gen1] compression ratio if the compression ratio was any higher like 12.1 you wouldnt even be able to run pump gas 93 octane. If you do run anything less you will decrease the performance of this engine and increase the chances of early detonation[misfire] and heat in the combustion chamber.The higher the octane the better it keeps the gas from detonating early.Just cause some other clown wants to save a few pennies on cheap gas don't think that he wont pay for it later it will affect performance.If somebody else jumped off a bridge would you do it to?

[alexd]

Originally Posted by TYR1

If you own a gen 1 or a gen 2 this is true. Ive heard a few guys on this website saying that their fz1 runs great on 87 octane or regular gas.What they dont know WILL HURT THEM.The fz1 was never intended to run on anything less than 93 octane gas.These bikes sport a race engine with 11.5.1 {gen2}or an 11.4.1[gen1] compression ratio if the compression ratio was any higher like 12.1 you wouldnt even be able to run pump gas 93 octane. If you do run anything less you will decrease the performance of this engine and increase the chances of early detonation[misfire] and heat in the combustion chamber.The higher the octane the better it keeps the gas from detonating early.Just cause some other clown wants to save a few pennies on cheap gas don't think that he wont pay for it later it will affect performance.If somebody else jumped off a bridge would you do it to?

Much of what you say is true. However IF THERE IS NO DETONATION OR PRE-IGNITION, there is actually a very slight INCREASE of HP using the MINIMUM EFFECTIVE octane number of your gasoline.

Long ago, teen-agers (in my day) used to think that Sunoco 105 would increase the power of daddy's stock 283 V8 Chevy. It didn't...and actually gave SLIGHTLY less power. But, the placebo effect was there...they always "felt" the extra surge of power.

That said...I ALWAYS put 93 octane gas in my FZ1 (or 91, 92 at altitude, when you can't buy 93). As you say, it's good insurance against getting too close to problem combustion.

Alexd

[jdc606]

Originally Posted by TYR1

Just cause some other clown wants to save a few pennies on cheap gas don't think that he wont pay for it later it will affect performance.If somebody else jumped off a bridge would you do it to?

Looked in the owners manual and it specs 86 octane or higher. Ask yourself, "Why would Yamaha spec gas that will destroy their motor? Do they make money replacing motors under warranty?" I usually put in the mid-grade 91 octane...but then I from an era when you "filled'er up with ethyl"...which gave the kid time to check the oil, tire pressure, and wash the windshield.

The higher the octane, the more resistant to ignition and slower burning. This can cause excess carbon build-up if the motor isn't designed for it.

[troyw]

Well said, sir. But, I don't even know why you'd use 91 octane if it doesn't need it. You're still putting a gasoline in that burns slower, and thus may lose you a bit of power and build up carbon more. My owner's manual says just what your does. NO knock on 87 octane regular gas at all, even in 95 degree Georgia heat and humidity.

TYR1, how do you know the FZ1 was never designed to run on anything less than premium if the Yamaha manual says run regular or higher? If you get an ignition module, then I can see upping the octane number. Also, check the specs on sport bikes again. Most of them are indeed higher compression than
12.1 to 1. The R1 is 12.7 to 1, the R6 is 13.1 to 1, CBR 1000 RR is 12.3 to 1, CBR 600 RR is 12.2 to 1, and so on. Are you telling us that all these
manufacturers are selling us bikes on the street that can't use pump gas when they have clearly labeled on them "use premium (93) gas only"? A friend of
mine just bought a new R6. Seems to run just fine on super unleaded...and if it didn't, Yamaha'd be sued for mislabeling and false advertising, and more.
C'mon folks, look up specs and be very sure of what you're saying before declaring oneself a guru of knowledge, or something.

Originally Posted by jdc606

Looked in the owners manual and it specs 86 octane or higher. Ask yourself, "Why would Yamaha spec gas that will destroy their motor? Do they make money replacing motors under warranty?" I usually put in the mid-grade 91 octane...but then I from an era when you "filled'er up with ethyl"...which gave the kid time to check the oil, tire pressure, and wash the windshield.

The higher the octane, the more resistant to ignition and slower burning. This can cause excess carbon build-up if the motor isn't designed for it.

[jdc606]

Originally Posted by troyw

. But, I don't even know why you'd use 91 octane if it doesn't need it...

So true... it's probably not so much I don't believe Yamaha when they say the FZ likes 87 octane, but more I doubt our 87 octane really is 87. We've got so much corn to get rid of around here I think they are spilling a little extra ethanol in when they blend it. Two years ago I was getting mid 40's for fuel economy with my cruiser. Put it away in the Fall and next Spring the best I could get was low 30's for mpg. Went over carb/ignition system thoroughly with no improvement. Out on the first road trip of the season and the further away from home I got, the better the gas mileage. First tank of gas back home and mpg's in the crapper again. Guess I should practice what I preach and try the 87 but my hearing sucks so I won't know if the motor is pinging and the spark plugs aren't easily gotten at to check for metal deposits.

On another note Troy... as much as you like tweaking on that FZ of yours, when are you going to plug an AEM a/f gauge in? I know you're happy with the "E" map as is, but how can you resist?<bg>