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Old 04-22-2005, 05:00 AM   #101
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What did you use to heat the spring? The garage I'm doing the mod in tomorrow has ox/acetylene but I'm not sure whether or not thats too hot a flame. Did you heat until red or did you just apply tension until it started to bend?

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Old 04-22-2005, 05:04 AM   #102
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30. Assemble the other fork leg the same as this one.

31. Install the forks in the clamps.
We set Neo's at 1/4" above the top clamp.
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:32 AM   #103
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32. Install wheel,brakes,and fender.

33. Torque all assemblies as requied.

With the forks raised in the triple clamps at least 1/4", this will allow the use of the center stand, with the dog bone installed.

RECOMMENDED DAMPER SETTINGS: a place to start.

NOTE: Compression and rebound setting should be arrived at by turning fully in then backing out the correct number of clicks. COOL.

Front forks:
spring preload - - two full rings showing as in the photo above.
compression - - 4 clicks out from full in.
rebound - - - 3 clicks out from full in.

Rear shock with dog bones:
spring preload - -- 6 clicks down from full or maximum.
compression - - - 7 out from full in.
rebound - - - 4 clicks out from full in.

There you got it with pertty pictures and all.

WARNING: DO NOT FORGET TO PUMP UP THE FRONT BRAKES BEFORE YOU TEST RIDE !!!!!!!!!

OK, now go ride your new bike. You'll swear it ain't the same bike.


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Old 04-22-2005, 05:34 AM   #104
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Excellent thread, and awesome Mod, Glenn.

Thank you for all your time and hard work.
The PICs really help!

You ROCK, brother!
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:35 AM   #105
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BTW:

I was in the local dealership yesterday and the Black on Grey you were looking at is back!

How is Igor anyway?
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:37 AM   #106
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Clint,

I just used mapp gas,heat till red and bend down with pliers.

The spring steel won't move until it gets red in at least a small area.

The mapp gas worked quite fast actually without undue heat.

The last coil is dead anyway,so no worries.
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:40 AM   #107
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We hope to get in a ride today if I get my new rim.

I bent my front.
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:41 AM   #108
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Fantastic mod and great explanatory pics. Thanks also for telling me what dogbones are. This would be great if you could put it on one of the webpages, similar to Pat's stuff.
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Old 04-22-2005, 09:16 AM   #109
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Good mod, Glenn and thanks for taking the trouble to photo it all and post the instructions.

One addendum for you to consider editing in to your post. When I had my forks rebuilt by K-Tech, they told me always to reset the rebound damping adjusters before refitting the top cap to the fork leg.

Wind the adjuster screw all the way out anti-clock, then back in again 42 clicks.
This ensures that you have sufficient range of adjustment available in either direction.

Once the top caps are back on the fork legs, wind the adjusters fully in (ie, max rebound damping) then back them out by the required number of turns. This is to ensure that you haven't inadvertently altered the damping screw settings while the forks were apart.

Nice job!

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Old 04-22-2005, 12:04 PM   #110
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Good catch Mike.

I did that without realizing others might not know to do that.

Made the change to the procedures to add that before cap removal.

Thanks again Mike.

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Hi Glenn,

Just keepin' ya honest, mate!



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Old 04-22-2005, 02:48 PM   #112
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That's a long phone call,clear from Spain dude.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:43 AM   #113
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Glenn,

I noticed that you made the dogbones out of 1/4" thick steel.

Is there any particular reason why you went thicker that the stock 1/8" material?

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Old 04-23-2005, 08:46 AM   #114
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He used aluminum.

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Old 04-23-2005, 01:09 PM   #115
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NHFZ1,

The stock linkage arms, or dog bones, are an alloyed steel 5mm thick, or .200".

1/8" =.125

If you look at the way the load is applied to the link arms, it is in tension.

So I went wider and thicker and used aluminum to save weight and easier to machine.

Clint,

Have you finished your installation??????????????

Just wondering how it was workig for you.???????????
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:41 PM   #116
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I finished today. Took a little longer than I expected, but then, I'm so scatter brained most things do. I can't believe how reduce the shock in the front end is. I didn't get a chance to really test it out because of the weather, scattered thunderstorms, plus I had new Z6's mounted today too, so they're still a little slippery. I need to tweak the suspension settings a bit, but from what I can tell so far, I'm extremely pleased.

One thing that's gonna take some getting used to is the way the bike corners. Just barely ask it and it's leaned over. I'm not sure if it's the tires doing that or the suspension. I imagine a little of both. I had the triple clamps dropped 8mm before I did the mod and it didn't drop in that quick, but that was on stock tires.

Only two bad things happened today. I didn't cover my tank with anything and I managed to scratch it to the metal with a wrench that slipped. Also, the shop that changed my tires put gouges in about a 1/3 of the outer edge of one side on the rear wheel. I didn't notice it until I got home and they were already closed. I'm gonna go up there on Monday or Tuesday to see what they're going to do for me. The reason I didn't tackle it myself is I didn't want to scratch the rims. I've got the spoons to do it, but the last bike I changed tires on had scratches on the rim when I was done. I could have lived with scratches, not gouges. And I sure as hell don't want to pay for gouges.

Anyway, overall I'm satisfied. I'll post more when I get the tires scrubbed in and take her for a real ride.

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Old 04-23-2005, 10:22 PM   #117
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Clint,

Did you also do the dog bones???????????///

If you did, you raised the back of the bike 1".

That could account for the quicker stearing.

Most only drop the front about 5mm.

You might want to lower the tubes in your triple clamps to
bring it back a little.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:16 AM   #118
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RavenRider:

I made your suspension upgrade procedure a technical tip page in the FZ1OA tech tips section.

http://yamahafz1oa.com/ravenriderssu...nupgrade.shtml

I assembled info from various posts in this thread and tried to put it all together. Please check it over and let me know if I got anything wrong or what other changes/additions you would like to make.

Thanks for this great stuff!

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Old 04-24-2005, 06:33 AM   #119
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Pat,

Wow,nice job putting that all together.

I don't know what to say, ( I know,that's a first ).

I never thought about it making the list. I was just so surprized how well it worked I couldn't keep it to myself.

I feel honored to have anything I came up with listed with the great stuff on that list.

Thanks for putting it together, nice job and I think covers everything.

Thanks Pat

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