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Old 03-26-2005, 03:46 PM   #61
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Tried the 1/4" pipe nipples and they were too small I.D. to fit over the damper rods.

Hell I was right the first time.

Anyone doing this mod,use the 3/8" pipe nipples.
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:45 PM   #62
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I would really like to try this on my bike Glenn, I was wondering if the dog legs will help with a 240 lb rider. Versus a new spring, and if this mod affected ride height? Also wondering if you could post sportsriders setting. Thanks George
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:46 PM   #63
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kamikazi52,

This will make a large difference from stock,but it may not be enough at your weight.

How ever,I'm no small guy and I love it. For the time and money spent, it'll be a huge improvement.

The dogbones will raise the rear ride height 1 inch and with lowering the front forks the over all ride height remains the same.

Suggested starting points for the suspension. My best guess for your weight.

Rear shock: spring preload - 4 back from full preload
rebound - 4 out from fully in
compression - 7 out from fully in

Forks: spring preload - 2 full rings showing
rebound - 3 out from fully in
compression - 4 out from fully in.

Please post up your results.

Thanks Glenn
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:36 AM   #64
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Thanks Glenn, looking forward to doing this mod. I will let you know how it goes.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:30 AM   #65
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Glen,

I got the bike on the road and put about 250 miles on this weekend. I like the suspension mod, you can't beat it for the money. The roads are still pretty dirty so I wasn't riding real aggressively but the bike has a tighter and more responsive feel. The one time I could really tell the difference was under hard braking prior to a left hand turn. In stock form the rear wheel would have skidded out some but with the suspension mod the rear wheel remained firmly planted.
I'm about 190 pounds before gear and started with two rings showing on the front pre load and five from max on the rear pre load. My dampening is set to recommended levels from Pat's site. I ended up going six from max on the rear pre load to soften the ride just a bit. I'll have to experiment with the dampening to see what works best for me.
I have no reservation in recommending this mod. It was relatively easy with a grinder to cut the springs and bench grinder being the only special tools needed.
Along with a handful of other mods I made on the bike over the winter the other that really stands out for the money is the R1 shift arm mod. I was really surprised at how much of a difference this mod made.

Thanks again Glenn, your the man.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:53 AM   #66
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Todd

Thanks for the kind words.

I'm just glad your pleased with the results.
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:33 PM   #67
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Raven,

I must say thank you for posting this mod. I was trying to decide on new front springs when I read this mod.

I didn't do the rear mod instead I purchased a hyperco spring. But I did do the front spring mod. I currently have my forks completely taken apart. After cutting the spring, I noticed the end of the spring was originally coiled at a smaller diameter for the last 2 coils. This would be the end that sits on the dampening rod compression cylinder. When I checked to see how this was going to seat now. I noticed it looks as if it is going to slip off the base and get wedged between the compression cylinder and the fork tube. So I used a butane torch and a pair a pliers to recoil the cut end of the spring so it properly seats on the compression cylinder.

I would recommend this mod to anyone. But would also recommend heating and recoiling the spring as I did.



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Old 04-13-2005, 11:14 PM   #68
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Shane,
Good idea on the last coil mod.
Glad it worked for you.

Thanks for posting up your results.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:28 AM   #69
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I haven't performed this mod yet, but I intend to. In fact, I'm so excited to get it done that i swear my bike is handling better just because I'm THINKING about doing this mod!
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:38 AM   #70
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A mechanic friend showed me a handy little trick for removing the front axle;

Take a 5/8ths spark plug socket, remove the rubber boot from inside and run a 4" or longer extension into the socket from the open end and it fits the 19mm axle like a charm.
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:32 AM   #71
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Great idea for in the garage.

My only thought has always been, What in hell do you use if your on the road and need to pull the front.

That's why I recommend the threaded rod coupler nut tossed in the tool kit ( measure 3/4 " across the flats).
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:15 AM   #72
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those two words should never collide in a sentance!

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Old 04-16-2005, 07:21 PM   #73
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How about gently placed.?????????????????
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:34 AM   #74
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Just got back home from Ravenrider's house after doing his mod to my suspension!

All I can say is......

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! MY BIKE STICKS TO THE ROAD LIKE IT WAS ON RAILS!!!!!

No more front end dive on hard braking. Bumps???? What bumps????

I was sceptical at first, but now.......I am absolutely astonished at the difference it actually made!

I ride hard (though not near as hard as Ravenrider) and many times found myself pushing my stock suspension to it's limits (especially during cornering and trying to keep up with Ravenrider's OLD ass)
But now the bike feels much more firm, sticks to the road and I no longer have that sphincter spasm when I have to really lay on the fornt brakes!

I'll give another update after taking it through the twisties a couple times!!!!

Glen, you freakin rock dude!!!!!!!!

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Old 04-21-2005, 01:51 PM   #75
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I got the parts fabricated today and I'm gonna tackle the mod on Saturday. I can't wait to feel the difference. I'm getting new tires on Saturday too, so I'm guessing it'll feel like a completely different machine.

Glenn, you'd mentioned that you were thinking about going down to 2.5wt. Did you ever do that or no? I still need to pick up the oil. The place I'm getting my tires mounted is a small mom and pop shop and they only sell Maxima 5wt fork oil, so if 2.5 is the way to go I'm gonna have to look around a bit tomorrow. Also, how much should I get? If memory serves, the Maxima they sold was in pints.

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Old 04-21-2005, 01:58 PM   #76
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I used less than a quart of fluid when I did my mod.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:32 PM   #77
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I have not tried the 2.5 wt. as yet.

The last one, Neo's we stayed with the 5 wt. and as you can read he's pretty happy with how it turned out.

Last Sunday it warmed up to 70 F and it was working great in mine so I guess I'll stick with it untill maybe fall and it cools off again.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:46 PM   #78
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This might be a bloody marvellous mod if I just knew what the hell "dog bones" are. Would somebody please enlighten me?
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Old 04-21-2005, 11:07 PM   #79
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They are the linkage arms from the rear shock to the swing arm.

When off the bike they look like dog bones.
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:25 AM   #80
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This might be a bloody marvellous mod if I just knew what the hell "dog bones" are. Would somebody please enlighten me?
This pic from Pat's site might help. He labeled it connecting arm. Arm, dogbone, linkage arm, strut... a rose by any other name.



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