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Old 04-03-2012, 05:54 PM   #341
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Replacement bushings are cheap, the lower fork leg was nearly $300 my cost as a shop owner with an account with the stealer that is lower than on line prices.

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why do you call them "stealer " then ?
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:42 PM   #342
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why do you call them "stealer " then ?
Pretty simple.

As a general public consumer, YOU get to pay full price.

I, as a shop owner get a very nice discount from the "dealer" due to the "volume" of sales I bring to the table.
Our shop runs over $2000 across their desk every month. Some months 2X - 3X that figure.
This month to date I have over 10K in parts on order just for suspension "PARTS" from Traxxion Dynamics.

Volume is the key.

And they are still making money off of every item, even after the discount.
To be totally honest, they have too. Over head costs to operate "ANY" business today is off the chart. Just our building payment and property taxes on a commercial location in a small city are just over 2 Gs a month.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:25 PM   #343
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I was wondering if its okay to install a set of front springs I got on ebay awhile back. They are .95kg springs I believe.Then your recomended front syspension upgrade transformation should be quicker for me to do as I ride two up now on my 2004-FZ1. Im on a very tight budget now and I should have taken care of the pogo front syspension on my beloved FZ1 awhile back. I have progressive springs and gold valves on my 2007 Roadliner S and a progressive shock and spring out back and that bike is just perfect as far as syspension performance and feel for a cruiser. I just also got done with my 2011 Camaro RS syspension and frame mods and that is also a world difference in handeling now. Problem was I was not using the FZ1 that much. Now Im using it alot more finnally and I can see the front end syspension is the biggest culprit with no feed back to me. But now the more important financial matters cropped up and money is tight. I have about $300.00 to spare, so im thinking a slightly stiffer spring out back on my FZ (or a 07 up R6 rear shock and springset up) and the stiffer springs out front with the 2.5wt oil you recomend and oil height. Then maybe next rideing year I can get the gold valves in the front and send out my stock rear shock for revalveing. So would this be a good start for me? Thanks.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:17 AM   #344
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The springs will help a lot.
Personally I am not a big fan of the Gold Valves. I have installed them on request, but the revalve set from Traxxion is a much better option for about the same cost.
At the rear, install a set of dog bones (as discribed). That will help over-all handling until you can get the shock rebuilt/revalved.
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:42 PM   #345
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The springs will help a lot.
Personally I am not a big fan of the Gold Valves. I have installed them on request, but the revalve set from Traxxion is a much better option for about the same cost.
At the rear, install a set of dog bones (as discribed). That will help over-all handling until you can get the shock rebuilt/revalved.
I just got a awsome deal on a never used R6 shock. When I get it delivered Ill install the front race tech 95kg springs and R6 shock and I happen to have a Hole shot lowering and raiseing links on my bike already which Ill probably use the raise hole setting since the R6 shock is 6m shorter. Im looking forward to this set up.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:02 AM   #346
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Well Im in love with my GEN I FZ1 all over again. I had four FZ1's ,three GEN I,s and one GEN II. This is by far the best rideing and handleing FZ1 I had. I installed the 08-R6 skock with my Hole shot lowering links at the lowest hole to slightly raise the back end and also did the Ravens front end mod at the same time , except I used the Racetech .95KG springs. After setteling on the rear preload at #4 and the front preload at three rings showing, Im pretty ,okay, VERY happy with the way my FZ1 rides and Handles now. The R6 shock I would not replace with a so called upgrade, but maybe, just maybe ill get the front full Racetech inners done next year now that im hooked on how much better the cheapi syspension mods did to this already great bike. I rode 356 miles today and just could not get off my FZ1. Im already live in the mountians so I tested all the types of roads. I can ride at a fast pace, for me and I still got 51.5MPG ,LOL. Whats fuel inj any way? I got about $5,750.00 total dollars into this bike and I would be hard pressed to find a better all around standard bike for ME out there. A 5.6 gal fuel tank, all day compy, 51.5 MPG on a easy cruise, low maintance,a GPS,T 167-171MPH, ( depending on wind) top end. I have had 27 bikes since 1973, these GEN I FZ1'S are the best in my opinion, dollar for dollar, .Thanks for the up grade syspension ideas guys.Every one pat themselves on the back
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:26 PM   #347
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Hello everybody,

I did the fork mod last week, and yes, it feels like a different bike. I have a question about raising the forks 1/4 inch in the triple tree. I installed an R6 shock and used 130mm dog bones - so kept the stock height. Should I still raise the forks, or will this upset the geometry.

Glenn, I PM'ed you about this, so sorry for the redundancy. And we all owe you a cold beer for sharing all your great ideas!!
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:14 PM   #348
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Hello everybody,

I did the fork mod last week, and yes, it feels like a different bike. I have a question about raising the forks 1/4 inch in the triple tree. I installed an R6 shock and used 130mm dog bones - so kept the stock height. Should I still raise the forks, or will this upset the geometry.

Glenn, I PM'ed you about this, so sorry for the redundancy. And we all owe you a cold beer for sharing all your great ideas!!
I have that exact same setup and I lowered mine. I love it. Less wheelie prone because more weight on the front but much better on corner entry etc...
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:31 AM   #349
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Thank you for that. Care to share your weight and settings?
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:52 AM   #350
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Where should the damping adj screws on the fork caps be set prior to assembling the forks?
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Where should the damping adj screws on the fork caps be set prior to assembling the forks?
All the way out. Just back the spring preload and the rebound adjusters all the way out.

Assemble and re-set as needed.
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:29 PM   #353
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I recently did this mod and it all went well (thanks for the offline advice Ravenrider).
Now I am adjusting the dampers and can't seem to adjust a unsettling harshness out of a bumpy corner. When I go into a bumpy corner the bike gets very upset, almost to the point of changing my line. Almost like the forks bottom out and bounce me off the original line.

Here are the details:
RR mod with 2.5 wt oil and forks raised 1/4 inch
R6 shock with 130mm dog bones (stock height)
Preload at 2.5 rings showing. (I set the sag at 35mm)
Rebound at 9 clicks out from full in
Compression at 8 clicks out
I weigh 210 with gear

Has anyone else experienced this and / or have advice?
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:42 AM   #354
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I think we talked about this.

When assembling the forks the preload and the rebound adjustments need to be turned all the way out when the caps are installed.
Only the first six to eight clicks of adjustments from fully IN actuality work.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:00 AM   #355
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:37 PM   #356
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I recently did this fork mod with all of Glenn's baseline settings except I have 3 rings of pre load showing. I used 5w maxima fork oil. In the rear I have an OEM shock that was re built by Traxion with a 650# spring.

I have a few Dragon/Skyway runs as well as several hundred miles of city, assorted two lane and interstate. I am very please with the results. The base line settings were just about spot on for me. This set up is all that I need for the pace that I ride at.

Thanks for the research Glenn. This is a great, easy to do mod that cost practically nothing.

The front end feels more planted. The ride is smoother over bumps probably because the PO had used 10w fork oil. Fork dive on braking is noticeably less.
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