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Old 04-10-2012, 04:58 AM   #1
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Tire Change: Mojo Bar or No Mar Bar?

I recently built a tire changer and now need to buy a bar. Does anyone have feedback on either of these bars?
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:03 AM   #2
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I like my no mar bar. Dont lnow anything about the mojo bar
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:08 AM   #3
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No-scuff tire tool combines the best of No-mar and Mojo bars. The seller's a member here. I love mine.
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I have the nomar and it works fine, but would be curious to see more about the other options..
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:52 AM   #5
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No-scuff tire tool combines the best of No-mar and Mojo bars. The seller's a member here. I love mine.
DaveNC, IIRC. http://www.no-scufftiretool.com/
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:55 AM   #6
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Thanks guys, I looked at No Scuff but he is out of stock for a few weeks and I need a bar now. If there was a large difference then I could possibly wait but the mojo bar is very similar and I bought one.

Actually the only difference I can see between Mojo and No Scuff is the No Scuff uses No Mar removal tips that are flat on one side of the tip. Am I missing anything or is that the only difference? If the flat side of tip is a benefit then I'll just power sand one side of the Mojo tip.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:56 PM   #7
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You'll want to sand the sides down, so you can slip it between the rim and bead easily..
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You'll want to sand the sides down, so you can slip it between the rim and bead easily..
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Now that I think about it the Mojo is rectangular bar so rotating it 90 degrees will be a challenge. I'll leave it alone and see how it goes. I can't believe it will be that much of a challenge getting the tip under the bead.
UPDATE: I received the bar and the tip that removes the tire is round (the bard is rectangular but the tip is round) so I will indeed be able to rotate it 90 degrees after inserted under the lip.

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Old 04-11-2012, 03:44 PM   #9
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I am pleased with the mojo bar I have. I bought mine used and the sides were ground down before I got it.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:22 PM   #10
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I can't believe it will be that much of a challenge getting the tip under the bead.
You're new at this, aren't you?
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Thanks guys, I looked at No Scuff but he is out of stock for a few weeks and I need a bar now. If there was a large difference then I could possibly wait but the mojo bar is very similar and I bought one.

Actually the only difference I can see between Mojo and No Scuff is the No Scuff uses No Mar removal tips that are flat on one side of the tip. Am I missing anything or is that the only difference? If the flat side of tip is a benefit then I'll just power sand one side of the Mojo tip.
I've only used the No Scuff bar, which works great, but IMHO the best difference is that with it you're supporting a member of this site.
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No-scuff tire tool combines the best of No-mar and Mojo bars. The seller's a member here. I love mine.
I used the Harbor Frieght tire stand for years.

Probably changed somewhere near 200 tires or more with it.

I used both the Mojo and No-mar. I finally got one of the No-scuff bars from 06Bill after his accident.

The No-scuff "IS" the best of both the other bars. Made tire changing almost as easy as our power changer at the new shop.

Well worth the money IMHO.
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What makes the difference, Glenn? I'm not having any issues with the No-Mar bar but curious what that plate on the end of the No-Scuff does..
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I used the Harbor Frieght tire stand for years.

Probably changed somewhere near 200 tires or more with it.

I used both the Mojo and No-mar. I finally got one of the No-scuff bars from 06Bill after his accident.

The No-scuff "IS" the best of both the other bars. Made tire changing almost as easy as our power changer at the new shop.

Well worth the money IMHO.
Other than the flat side of the removal tip (which can be quickly done on the mojo) what is the difference between No Scuff and Mojo?
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I used a slightly different set up with my HF stand than most.

I used the No-mar bead holder with the NO-SCUFF bar.

I found the flat ended No-Scuff mounting set up to be quite a bit easier for mounting a tire. The Nomar worked, but required what I felt was more effort on some of the stiffer tires. I had both and after using both, I always used the No-Scuff for mounting.

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As i no longer have my garage, i needed to change out my rear tire. I probably could have done it at the storage locker where the bike is, but no compressed air there. So my pal Rich Sanderson, i called. He has a complete tire changer that he said he paid 3K for! And a complete tire changer it is! Man, what a piece that changer is. He had the old tire off, and new one on, in about a minute or less! Just amazing to watch him use that machine. Did the tire change, balanced the complete tire/wheel, and that was it. Had to make him take ten bucks for his trouble.
I will still do all my tire changes by hand, when i can get a good place to put my compressor. Man, do i miss that garage i use to have. Oh well, and so it goes.
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Watching his videos, that makes it look pretty difficult compared to the No-Mar bar - I still don't get what makes you say it's better, Glenn?
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I'm not speaking for Glenn, but it just works. I used the nomar bar at Jennings to change tires, the next years after that I brought my no-scuff with me.
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I have never used a No-scuff but I have used a No-mar and the tip has broken twice. It works well for the de-mounts but not so much for mounting...
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Watching his videos, that makes it look pretty difficult compared to the No-Mar bar - I still don't get what makes you say it's better, Glenn?
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His video sucks as well as how he uses his own bar.

All I can say is, I have probbly done about as many tire changes with that rig as most or more.

I have used the full on NOMAR stand changer as well. On my NO-SCUFF I added a small lip to the top of the flat on the outer end by simply bolting on a small piece of bent aluminum to keep the bead from going over it when starting to set the bead onto the rim.

After that it was a cake walk mounting a tire.

The biggest draw back to the manual stands is keeping the bar away from the rotors on Suzukis. Their rotors will get tweeked out pretty easy. Not really bent, but the buttons will allow it to get tweeked on one side.

Then you have to get the rim in a stand with an indicator to true it back. after a couple of those you'll learn to be quite careful. I made a stand off out of pipe that slid onto the center bar on the stand. Welded on a hook that would not let the bar get to a low enough angle to touch a rotor, but would rotate around when dismounting ot mounting a tire.

Worked well until I went to the dark side at Midnight. Wooooooo

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