Rossi...wow (Contains Spoilers)

[Super Googan]

So, lets get this straight. Stoner can blame his gloves and that's ok but Rossi blames the bike and its not ...........

[Super Googan]

Originally Posted by flbusa

Except for Carlos Checa. That guy gets better with age.

Come on ! WSB is where has-been, nobody MotoGp riders go to die. Checa, Biaggi, Haga...........the list is long.

Maybe we will see Rossi in WSB soon

[Falcon 269]

Yup.

As a result of Stoner's complaints about his carbon-reinforced gloves, Alpinestars will be working flat out over the next 2 weeks developed a more conventional design using alloy parts. This will be subjected to a short period of testing before the next race. Team mate Pedrosa will also be required to wear the same new glove prototype but will adapt to it quicker and finish several places ahead of Stoner at Jerez.

[flbusa]

I'd like to see Rossi in WSB. I bet that Biaggi doesn't though.

[gixxerjasen]

Originally Posted by Super Googan

So, lets get this straight. Stoner can blame his gloves and that's ok but Rossi blames the bike and its not ...........

If you are on the podium, you are allowed to blame things as to why you didn't get first. If you barely make the top 10...you better have a good excuse.

Originally Posted by flbusa

I'd like to see Rossi in WSB. I bet that Biaggi doesn't though.

THAT, would be awesome! I wonder how Rossi would do on the S1000RR?

[Kevin Daly]

Originally Posted by flbusa

I'd like to see Rossi in WSB. I bet that Biaggi doesn't though.

hahaa

Seriosuly guys, the Qatar results speak for themselves:
yamaha
honda
honda
Yamaha
yamaha
Oh, and theres ducati
honda
honda
Oh there another ducati

I'm not saying Rossi doesnt have issues that he's bringing to the table; hell, he ran over the head of one of his own buddies last year that had to affect him in addition to the several crashes. But lets face it, ducati has more than one champion riding their bikes and none of them ended up on the podium.

[caupina]

Originally Posted by Super Googan

Come on ! WSB is where has-been, nobody MotoGp riders go to die. Checa, Biaggi, Haga...........the list is long.

Maybe we will see Rossi in WSB soon

I find WSBK way more entertaining that MotoGP, at least you don't get to see the usual suspects 10 seconds ahead of everyone else and getting podiums. It's a shame that we don't get to watch Haga racing BSB now, which by the way it's a great champioship too.

[gixxerjasen]

Originally Posted by caupina

I find WSBK way more entertaining that MotoGP, at least you don't get to see the usual suspects 10 seconds ahead of everyone else and getting podiums.

Yea, cuz watching the same guy win three of four races would just be boring.

[Super Googan]

Originally Posted by Kevin Daly

hahaa

Seriosuly guys, the Qatar results speak for themselves:
yamaha
honda
honda
Yamaha
yamaha
Oh, and theres ducati
honda
honda
Oh there another ducati

I'm not saying Rossi doesnt have issues that he's bringing to the table; hell, he ran over the head of one of his own buddies last year that had to affect him in addition to the several crashes. But lets face it, ducati has more than one champion riding their bikes and none of them ended up on the podium.

Exactly ! I wont be calling Rossi washed up until I see him in 10th on a competitive bike. He got tired of losing the front end constantly on the Duc last year, but hung tough waiting for the necessary changes . They never came, the Duc's still a terd and Rossi is content to putt around at 80% until his contract expires. Hell I don't blame him, its one thing to keep pushing and crashing on a bike that can win you a championship its another to push that hard to find yourself in 5th,6th,7th.

[hotboot]

Who can blame Rossi for the frustration ? I just wonder at what level he could pilot a different machine. Older and a tad past prime or he knows the Duc will never dominate in this class.
They are trying to make the premier class as exciting and competitive as Moto 2, which I find a lot more enjoyable to watch because the spread is so narrow.
Qatar is an awesome track btw, sandy corners and all. Love the night light racing thing.

[jredford]

I wonder what type of recon he (rossi) did before going over to Ducati? It's not like
he didn't know that they weren't competitive.

Was he more interested in the money or perhaps the ill fated belief that
he and his remarkable skills would take the home team to the top of the podium?

[flbusa]

Originally Posted by jredford

I wonder what type of recon he (rossi) did before going over to Ducati?

The financial kind

Rossi's Dilemma: 15 Million Euros At Ducati, Or 9 Million At Yamaha

MotoGP's bumper silly season has taken another step closer to its conclusion in recent weeks, with signs that both Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo are starting to move towards finalizing deals. Reports in the Italian sports daily Corriere dello Sport indicate that Valentino Rossi has been offered 15 million euros by Ducati to sign for the Italian factory.

That is a good deal more than Yamaha have offered the Italian. Rossi is reportedly currently under contract for some 14 million euros, but had been in discussions with Yamaha prior to Mugello about reducing his salary to between 9 and 10 million euros.

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010...s_at_duca.html

[CrazyJoe]

I believe a little is being left out in this conversation about --- modern electronics. I'm not suggesting that anyone can ride these bikes but the new electronics IS making it easier. This is decreasing the distance in skill level between Rossi and everyone. I think this is what is happening in Moto2. You put a bunch of talented guys on bikes that are easier to ride and they end up closer together.

I didn't hear --- but what happed to Stoner? He was so damn far ahead and then just started slowing down --- tires?

[jredford]

Gloves Joe, gloves.

[CrazyJoe]

Originally Posted by jredford

Gloves Joe, gloves.

I think it's too late for me to understand what you meant? and I'm slow.

[jredford]

Originally Posted by CrazyJoe

I think it's too late for me to understand what you meant? and I'm slow.

http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=35

[CrazyJoe]

Originally Posted by jredford

http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=35

Oh! --- OK, I forgot about that post. That would just be too silly.

[Super Googan]

Originally Posted by jredford

I wonder what type of recon he (rossi) did before going over to Ducati? It's not like
he didn't know that they weren't competitive.

Was he more interested in the money or perhaps the ill fated belief that
he and his remarkable skills would take the home team to the top of the podium?

Rossi no doubt thought he and Burgess could work the same magic on the Duc that they had with Yamaha and Honda.........big mistake. Ducati's on again off again financial troubles have always affected the racing budget and development.

MotoGp is much more about the bike and electronics than it was 10-15 years ago. Look at Yamaha's success when Rossi left honda and brought the electronics whizzes with him...........and in turn Honda stealing them back a couple years later.
I miss the Mick Doohan/Wayne Rainey days when its was 90% rider 10% bike.
Just loved when Doohan returned to the " screamer " motor because he did not like how the other riders were getting closer with the easy to ride big bang motor.

The good ole days !

[gixxerjasen]

Rossi's recon? He was courted by them when he left Honda. Read his autobiography. He didn't want to go to Ducati because they had the attitude of "Here's the bike, go win with it" which was precisely the thought process in the Honda camp that he was leaving. Yamaha was tripping all over themselves to get Rossi in their and let him develop the heck out of their crappy bike.

I don't think Rossi really thought he'd get to develop this time around just the same as last time. I think he's looking towards retirement, that he could do well on the Duc, and that he'd like to go out on a high note riding an Italian bike in front of his Italian countrymen making a boat load of cash. Sadly, it's not all working out to plan.

[G_man]

Originally Posted by Super Googan

Rossi no doubt thought he and Burgess could work the same magic on the Duc that they had with Yamaha and Honda.........big mistake. Ducati's on again off again financial troubles have always affected the racing budget and development.

MotoGp is much more about the bike and electronics than it was 10-15 years ago. Look at Yamaha's success when Rossi left honda and brought the electronics whizzes with him...........and in turn Honda stealing them back a couple years later.
I miss the Mick Doohan/Wayne Rainey days when its was 90% rider 10% bike.
Just loved when Doohan returned to the " screamer " motor because he did not like how the other riders were getting closer with the easy to ride big bang motor.

The good ole days !

Yep I agree & those were the good ol days along with a wild Schwantz.

Can't believe the guys bashing on Rossi though, I doubt anyone will ever break his records and for that he deserves RESPECT even in these dire times for him.

I remember when McGrath's reign came to an end, he had done so much for that sport it was hard for anyone to slam him with much validity.



Kinda sad to see him struggle like that, what else does he need to prove? After losing his young protege' it's got to be in the back of his mind and might be thinking about retirement.