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Old 09-24-2007, 06:19 PM   #321
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Haven't got the replacement dogbones yet - the ones that are on now are maybe 1/32 - 1/16 too big. I am gonna take the stock dogbones up to the machinist and have him match the hole size - prob ream it.

Tires are a used mix set that I pulled out of my old tire stock when I got the bike home. The front is a M1 with about 50% and came off my R6, the rear is a Z6 (170/60) off my ST1100 that has about 50%. I know it's the wrong size but was all I had on hand to get the squared-off stock junk off the bike. I plan to replace with new set of Z6's. Pressure is 36F / 39R.

The bike is not twitchy all the time - just when I jiggle the bars a bit the bike gets REALLY upset - this trait didn't exist on my R6 or ST. Feels like it would like to tank-slap REALLY easy if it had half a reason to. I think the geometry is a little too sharp as it sits right now - but keep in mind that I got 30mm F / 40mm R sag after the mods and preload dialed in. I think if I lower the tubes a little in the clamps it will take some of it out - gonna try that and see how it goes. Or heck, maybe it IS that front tire - the tires on my R6 wore bad on the sides and had plenty of tread left in the center, so it is a little V shaped on the profile
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:03 PM   #322
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The smaller rear does make a difference as well.

That is one thing the R-1 guys do to quicken up the steering. Drop from a 190 to a 180.

You really don't know what you have with old tires taken OFF - TWO different bikes.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:31 AM   #323
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FZ Hooligan is one big (Like in "BIG ARMZ") dude. He went back to the stock rear spring after installing the dogbones.

Good luck.
I go about 265 with gear on, and with the dogbone mod, the rear feels right on.

I've seen pic's of "Mr Big Armz" and wasn't impressed.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:06 AM   #324
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Yeah, I bet your girlfriend can take ya!
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:09 AM   #325
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Yeah, I bet your girlfriend can take ya!
This spoken from a man who lives in Iowa, nowhere near FZ1 Hooligan I presume?
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:59 AM   #326
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No seriously, I bet his gf can take him

Jason, what do you say, can Neely take ya?
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:23 PM   #327
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Only between the sheetz!! The girl is by far the toughest I've ever met, but I've still got 100lbs on her. Now, pound for pound...I'm in big trouble. She's 3 weeks out from her next bodybuilding/figure show. Here's a pic for those interested.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:29 PM   #328
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Tell her I said Best of Luck!!
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:32 AM   #329
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Yowza

That's one fine looking suspension for sure.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:16 AM   #330
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Uhhh..... back on track...... back on track.....


I raised the forks up in the clamps 2mm and rode a little yesterday and the bike felt much more planted. Will try and take it out for a good hard run this weekend and see how it does at a quicker pace. Just ordered up a proper set of Z6's as well, that should help out the feel too.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:57 AM   #331
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Maybe I missed this, but what grade of aluminum is being used for the dog bones? I'm looking forward to doing this mod and want to get it right.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:48 AM   #332
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Jason my man...Neely is looking good....Tell her I said Good Luck and Knock'em Dead!!!


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sorry for the hijack....
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:52 AM   #333
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Maybe I missed this, but what grade of aluminum is being used for the dog bones? I'm looking forward to doing this mod and want to get it right.
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The loads on the dog bones are in tension. I make all the ones I sell or for the kits from 6061 T6 bar stock.

The bushing in the linkage arms takes all the ware. The bones actually don't see a lot of load.

My original ones are still in use and in fine condition after some 50K+ miles.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:26 PM   #334
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Just rode my bike today after doing the RR mod. Its so much better,it actually turns now,and feels much more planted.
Thanks again RavenRider.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:14 PM   #335
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Finally made the new dogbones and got them installed today. Rode it tonight and it definitely turns in better! Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a chance to do a longer ride and feel the results over a variety of roads surfaces and speeds.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:39 PM   #336
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Took me while to find this thread. Needed the info it contains for reference on the fork oil level.

This is really the best mod done on my '02.

This thread always deserves to be resurected.




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Old 07-01-2011, 01:26 PM   #337
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started this today, have the forks apart still wating for oil. just to clarify you fill to 4.75" from the top with the fork tubes extended or compressed?
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Compressed with springs out.

"1 liter" will do both forks easily.

Note: after having done dozens of these forks with this cheap up-grade, I highly recommend that the forks be taken totally apart and the bushings inspected.

The 2001 Gen I, I just purchaced with 17,800 miles on the clock had a badly worn right side aluminum fork leg. I suspect that after a tire change the previous owner installed the wheel and their lack of knowledge for a correct install caused high stiction. The teflon coating was completely worn off the lower bushing.

Replacement bushings are cheap, the lower fork leg was nearly $300 my cost as a shop owner with an account with the stealer that is lower than on line prices.

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Old 07-02-2011, 09:46 AM   #339
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Just rode my bike today after doing the RR mod. Its so much better,it actually turns now,and feels much more planted.
Thanks again RavenRider.
I could of not said it better! On your recommended settings and it's great, feels like a different bike. I did not raise the rear as I am getting a r6 shock and will be swapping out the dog bones for that also. I love the improvement with the dive on braking. that was my biggest goal and it just sweetened up the rest of it also.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:34 PM   #340
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Did the rear dogbones today. Made it out of plain steel 3/16" thick, 1" W, 36" for about 6$ at Home Depot. It was a pain in the ass to drill the 1/2 in hole!
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