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Old 01-24-2018, 04:46 PM   #1
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Dual Sport / Adventure Helmet Design

Contemplating a dual sport or adventure helmet purchase and wondering about the visor design and speed. The Arai XD4 has a disclaimer that the visor is not suitable for high speed riding because it could be difficult to return your head to the forward position if wind catches it. Ok, the logic makes sense. But none of the other brands/models mention it. Shoei Hornet X2, Scorpion AT-950, and basically everything with the visor.

My question is what would be considered high speed? Do they mean race track pace? Highway speeds? Could it be that Arai is being more cautious with their marketing of the niche helmet?

In all honesty, I'll most likely end up going with the Scorpion if I get that design, but probably gonna fall back on my existing brand/model, an HJC CL-17, but this time around I'll get the blue Streamline version. Hard to rationalize spending $460 on the Arai when the HJC is just over $100.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:18 PM   #2
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I’ve ridden with the XD-4 up to about 100 MPH. No issue with the visor I could tell. But I only use it when riding the dual sport.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:44 PM   #3
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Contemplating a dual sport or adventure helmet purchase and wondering about the visor design and speed. The Arai XD4 has a disclaimer that the visor is not suitable for high speed riding because it could be difficult to return your head to the forward position if wind catches it. Ok, the logic makes sense. But none of the other brands/models mention it. Shoei Hornet X2, Scorpion AT-950, and basically everything with the visor.

My question is what would be considered high speed? Do they mean race track pace? Highway speeds? Could it be that Arai is being more cautious with their marketing of the niche helmet?

In all honesty, I'll most likely end up going with the Scorpion if I get that design, but probably gonna fall back on my existing brand/model, an HJC CL-17, but this time around I'll get the blue Streamline version. Hard to rationalize spending $460 on the Arai when the HJC is just over $100.
Is there a reason you would choose the CL-17 over the FG-17?
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Old 01-24-2018, 09:27 PM   #4
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Or the IS-17 which has the internal sun visor.

FWIW, I bought a Scorpion AT-950 last year and I love it. My only complaints would be too few positions for the shield ratcheting system and lack of a true quick change shield system. Other than that, I really like the helmet. Also to note, I have not ridden with the visor on, so I have no feedback for that.
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Old 01-25-2018, 10:57 AM   #5
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I worked at Cycle Gear awhile back and a woman came in complaining that her Arai XD4 causes buffeting around 75mph. She's the only one I've ever heard of having that problem since we sold a lot of them to street/ADV riders. Sounds like cautious marketing because a lot of people ride with that helmet on the street.
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Is there a reason you would choose the CL-17 over the FG-17?
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Or the IS-17 which has the internal sun visor.
I don't know much about either of these options. The only reason I'm a fan of the CL-17 is because it's the best fitting helmet I've owned. I wouldn't mind the added amenities of other models, as long as the helmet still held the same basic fit.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:28 PM   #7
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I don't know much about either of these options. The only reason I'm a fan of the CL-17 is because it's the best fitting helmet I've owned. I wouldn't mind the added amenities of other models, as long as the helmet still held the same basic fit.
I had a CL and liked it a lot. The IS fits just as nice and has the added option of the internal sun visor, which I like. Although you may want to opt and buy the darker sun visor for it. The stock one is a bit on the light side for my likes.

The modular version of the IS is the IS-Max.
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Can I try and keep this going a bit and see what everyone likes in this category?
I've been looking at the Shoei X2 and the Arai XD4. My buddy has a Nexx, but it seems heavy to me. I like the Bell price, but it fits a little to round for me.

I'd love to hear other's input.
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I'm trying to find a modular ADV/DS helmet, as I think that would be super convenient, certainly more so than my straight MX helmet!
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Old 01-30-2018, 02:39 PM   #10
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I have a brand new Motorfist (sled gear) Alpha CF helmet that is a re-branded Kali protectives lid that I have been trying to sell (cheap) forever. I've no takers so i'll probably start wearing it. I'll let you guys know how it does "at speed".

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Old 02-12-2018, 06:53 AM   #11
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Well, I bought the Arai XD4 and I like it. There is a bit more buffeting with the visor attached than without on the FZ10 with the touring screen. That screen directs the bulk of the wind right at my neck. On the WR250R it gave no buffeting up to about 75 mph. I think I'll be keeping the touring screen on, since it keeps my from having to pull myself forward above 60.

In clean air it worked just fine, even when turning my head to check for traffic.
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