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Old 05-13-2019, 01:04 PM   #1
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Anybody used online pharmacies to avoid doctor visit hell and get cheaper drugs from Canada or other countries?

Iíve got some debilitating nerve pain that flares occasionally (like right now).

Appts with general practitioner or orthopedic doc require wait. Offices not returning my voicemails.

So any reputable no-prescription pharmacies in Canada?

I mainly need some Toradol right now. Itís not controlled just a good short-term NSAID that works for me in combo with oral steroids.

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Old 05-13-2019, 02:29 PM   #2
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They are out there but, toradol and tramadol have become controlled substances in most states. I reckon if you take enough it provides a high....... wtf? Never needed nor wanted more than what I need. Can't cypher some folk out.........
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:22 PM   #3
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So any reputable no-prescription pharmacies in Canada?
Would that be legal - to "consult" with prescription provider who is licensed (and practices) in another country? Without physically going there first?
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They are out there but, toradol and tramadol have become controlled substances in most states. I reckon if you take enough it provides a high....... wtf? Never needed nor wanted more than what I need. Can't cypher some folk out.........
The schedules are federal.

Tramadol is an opioid. Controlled narcotic. Versus Toradol is just an anti-inflammatory like Motrin. But it's very effective for me. Problem is it's still not OTC.
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I just looked up Taradol and would pick some up for you but it is not an over the counter drug. You need a doctor's prescription.
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Would that be legal - to "consult" with prescription provider who is licensed (and practices) in another country? Without physically going there first?
Don't know. In terms of legal prohibitions for out of country prescriptions, they're designed--as you know--to protect the exclusive markets (and profits) of the drug companies (and written by them). So it's not really a just law in my view. And I'm willing to risk breaking it with circumstances depending.

I support FDA oversight and regulation. But I think informed consumers should have the freedom of choice to risk non-FDA approved substances. Especially in our screwed up health system where a patient has to jump through a dozen hoops just to take a few tablets that are proven to work and he needs quickly for nerve pain so he can function.

I had an extra dose pack of prednisone, some Gabapentine, and substituting Motrin/Tylenol for the Toradol. That should get me back in the game tomorrow.

I just wanted to know if anyone had good experience with something like a specific Canadian pharmacy so I could shop with greater confidence.

I just read a medical study of U.S. patients who had used a Canadian pharmacy. They found participants with Google ads. Most of them were middle-aged women. So I guess I'm on the wrong forum.
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Why are your drug prices so high? I am sure a lot of the scrip drugs bought in Canada were made in the US. Most things made in the US are cheaper in the US.
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I just looked up Taradol and would pick some up for you but it is not an over the counter drug. You need a doctor's prescription.
Yep, that seems the case in Canada. And thanks for the offer.

Since it's an NSAID it should go OTC at some point; I'd have to look at the patent to see just when. Then I could just take double for the prescription dose.

I did see a Canadian pharmacy selling it with no prescription required. But the credibility goes down at that point. And I took quite enough mystery tablets in my wilder days. I may still get a script after I survive this bout and use it to order from the Great White North and see how it goes. Keeping my options open.

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Why are your drug prices so high? I am sure a lot of the scrip drugs bought in Canada were made in the US. Most things made in the US are cheaper in the US.
Bribery, avarice, rigged markets, and predatory capitalism.

Heck, the federal government (Medicare) is prevented by federal law from negotiating drug prices. They made it a law!

That's like legislators telling Walmart (commensurate buyer to Medicare) that they can't negotiate prices.

Canada decided long ago that health care was a moral issue. I forget the name of the Baptist preacher who led the cause and crafted a system that didn't bankrupt its citizens.
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Why are your drug prices so high? I am sure a lot of the scrip drugs bought in Canada were made in the US. Most things made in the US are cheaper in the US.
It depends on the drug of course, if amoxicillin actually became an OTC that you had to sign for, like pseudophede, the price would double. I paid a Pharmacy one third of what I paid a veterinarian, 2 weeks 4x the strength of the cats one week.

But new drugs with a Patent are where all future drug research and lawsuit payoffs come from.
Snake bite medication has also gone through the roof because it is stocked but so rarely used.
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Appts with general practitioner or orthopedic doc require wait. Offices not returning my voicemails.
Can't they call it in if you get ahold of the PC physician? If they have a medical record of you having used it before.

I was prescribed a new BP medication today. I found out at the Pharmacy that it's on backorder. I have to get ahold of the Dr. Office tomorrow, to see if they are working on this.
I hope it's not a case of the Pharmacy profiting from running out of the cheapest drug but stocking more expensive ones.
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I get Patanol from Planet Drugstore in Canada but they require legitimate prescriptions.
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Ive used eBay before to get anti-inflammatory prescription creams from Europe, shipping took a little bit of time but was as advertised
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:18 PM   #14
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Bribery, avarice, rigged markets, and predatory capitalism.

Heck, the federal government (Medicare) is prevented by federal law from negotiating drug prices. They made it a law!

That's like legislators telling Walmart (commensurate buyer to Medicare) that they can't negotiate prices.

Canada decided long ago that health care was a moral issue. I forget the name of the Baptist preacher who led the cause and crafted a system that didn't bankrupt its citizens.
Tommy Douglas I think but I didn't know he was a preacher. The world did not end in spite of the dire warnings from those with a vested interest in the status quo. But that was over 50 years ago, doing it then was easier.

There must be some reason besides greed/avarice which is universal and in every industry in every country. In fact I would bet that the US develops and produces more new drugs than any other country and that is a very good thing even if it is driven by greed.

Regardless, let me know if I can help.
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I get Patanol from Planet Drugstore in Canada but they require legitimate prescriptions.
Wow, I vaguely recall using Planet Drugstore for a lot of umm, medicinals, back in the 60ís and 70ís. Never had a problem.
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It depends on the drug of course, if amoxicillin actually became an OTC that you had to sign for, like pseudophede, the price would double.
I just came back from Cancun, where amox, cephlex, 2.5% hydrocortisone, and codeine Tylenol was all OTC. Why we canít have stuff like this in the US is beyond me.

I know when Iím sick, why do I have to go to the doctor and pay a copay for them to tell me Iím sick, to write me a script for a $4 antibiotic? Mexico is ahead of us on that one it seems.
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The reason is to stop people abusing the drugs. We have similar laws here in Australia. Drugs that have psycho active ingredients are even harder to get and you have to show a drivers license or proof of ID to get them.

Some of our drugs recently went from supermarket to pharmacy only meds too, i.e. aspirin I believe.
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Can't they call it in if you get ahold of the PC physician? If they have a medical record of you having used it before.
Yes, if they'd return my calls. I like my docs, but their office management leaves a lot to be desired.

Health care has the worst customer service it seems of any industry. I've had people in Europe tell me they can have easy e-mail conversations with their doctor. Here the system is designed to funnel everyone through the front door of the office for anything. Sometimes I know what I need and can't wait for an appt.
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You could always try Mexico.

I went on a one day trip into Nuevo Larado with a co-worker. As we walked down the street (about a block from the entry point) I was approached by at least a dozen Pharmacy "representatives" selling scripts on the street corner.

10 out 12 of the street pharmacists asked if I wanted a script for the blue pill. The other two were hawking pain pills.

My lesbian co-worker wondered why so many street vendors thought I was a "soft" target.
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Health care has the worst customer service it seems of any industry. I've had people in Europe tell me they can have easy e-mail conversations with their doctor. Here the system is designed to funnel everyone through the front door of the office for anything. Sometimes I know what I need and can't wait for an appt.
I'd put customer support from Lawyers way, way, way below Health care. In fact most "Professionals" that I deal with are not Professional at all.

In New England both my health care provider and my wife's have secure online interface between patients, Drs, and staff, including refilling prescriptions, asking questions, and making appointment. You can also see all your medical history including lab reports. We always get same day responses (not same minute)

My wife uses it for most of her interactions for both her and her 100 year old Mom.
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