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Old 02-06-2009, 12:32 AM   #41
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For those of you that are interested, I set up two tables that compare the specs of the 2005 FZ1 and the 06 R1 to the 06 FZ1.

Enjoy!

http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/2006FZ1comparo.shtml
I wonder how hard it would be to simplyobtain the YZF-R1 powerplanr and r&r it from the stock FZ1 Motor to simply and easyly get that 172.5BHP into my FZ ONE. Would a swap be as simple as dropping the fzpp and bolting up the yzf-r1pp? or would some minor mods like a pwrcmndr and pipeandcanister with a bigger set of cams be an easy way to uncork the FZONE enjine?
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:45 AM   #42
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A simple and quick way to pull out the power is to gut both cats, and unbolt the silver endcap and strategicly drill.5 ni holes into the canister. Then cut off about a half inch of tailpipe and reinstall the endcap. yer mod holes will go unseen, a nice throaty sound and you cut off a little pipe to allow for the burnelli effect to reduce backpressure by blowing hot gasses into the cap enough to create a small "vacume" in the endcaps domain thus allowing the "opened canister to evacuate gasses into the endcaps area thus furthur reducing backpressure slightly.I don't know how effective the pipe cut is in creating the low pressure effect but I think it is sound in theory. all this done with no motor mods or adjustments seems to unleash a good bit of power sufficient to allow the front end to get light with significantly less throttle imput in lower gears. I don't notice too much gain in 6th when I simply snap it back. She seems to pull more miles outa that fuel tank though. alltogether it was worth the trouble. I wonder what a cmandr would do wth a good rich fuel map?
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:29 AM   #43
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Interesting that the 1st to 2nd gear ratio changed so much. If I am interpreting correctly the ratio is closer on the 06 than the 05. Anyone know why the change?
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:55 AM   #44
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:21 PM   #45
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Hello everyone, I apologize if this is the wrong place to introduce myself (if so, please advise) I am presently living in Scottsdale. However, my family (wife, 1 girl, 1 boy) have decided to return home to Sonoma County in NoCal. Currently looking for work in Medical Device or Biotech. My first bike in college was a '66 R69S BMW. I am on the hunt for an FZ1 (after I find a job). I have been riding with a good bro on his FJR1300, but want something a bit more sporty=FZ1!! For now just looking to gain some knowledge and meet some other riders. Again, I am new to online communities/msg boards so if I am not following the rules/etiquette please lemme know....Thanks NoCal
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:14 AM   #46
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06 comparison

Wow,the 2 engines really are almost identical.The big differnce looks like cam shafts.Much more duration on the r1,as well as more intake valve lift.I dont think the fz would like that much duration without the copmression bump.Looks like the combustion Chambers are slightly different also.The exhausts Ports may be larger also,doesnt
really say.Whats interesting,is the induction system is exactly the same.Trip.Seems like u could drop the r1 in,,,just swap computers.What a sleeper that would be!
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:32 AM   #47
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so has anyone tried to swap in the larger generator of a second gen fz into a first gen fz?

are there any specks of the size of the two units?
get that much juice out of a first gen and one would be golden and not have any worries about loosing it.

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Old 12-22-2013, 07:59 AM   #48
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Interesting that the 1st to 2nd gear ratio changed so much. If I am interpreting correctly the ratio is closer on the 06 than the 05. Anyone know why the change?
Probably to prevent the increased torque of the FI engine from breaking the gearset.
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:06 AM   #49
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so has anyone tried to swap in the larger generator of a second gen fz into a first gen fz?

are there any specks of the size of the two units?
get that much juice out of a first gen and one would be golden and not have any worries about loosing it.
The added output is for the EFI. As has been explained in other posts, with a Permanant magnet alternator and a shunt regulator, any energy that you do not use 100% of the time must be converted to heat.

With that much extra heat, you would probably burn up the stator.

To have an measurable amount of reserve power generating capability, you have to have a field excited alternator and compatible regulator--like a car or a BMW motorcycle--and re-engineering the bike for this is not a simple matter....
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:59 AM   #50
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so has anyone tried to swap in the larger generator of a second gen fz into a first gen fz?
No because the two systems are not similar in design in any way. The Gen 1 generator rotor is the flywheel on the end of the crankshaft. The Gen 2 generator is indirectly driven and remotely mounted above the transmission.
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Great info even if a little dated since it hasn't changed much
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