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Old 06-11-2019, 06:46 PM   #41
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The Gen I stock suspension isn't horrible for those around 185 and under. I'm 165 and solo it's ok, but two up the stock rear just doesn't work, especially when loaded with the E460 and both E21's. The R6 shock was a great improvement for little cost. I bought a shock on flea bay for well under a hundred bucks and made my own dog bones from 7075 bar stock. Set it up for stock rear ride height. No more bottoming out over bumps.

Last week replaced that setup with a Penske. My new recommendation after several days on the Dragon and surrounding twisties: forego anything else, get the Penske! The experience is transformative. I'm in love all over again. The R6 PALES in comparison. Smoother ride all around, solo and two-up, and now is much more on rails in tight and sweeper twisty stuff.

FWIW, my carbs are still bone stock and work just fine. CV carbs are pretty solid.
I agree on the Penske. Wouldn't trade mine for anything. And I'm glad the stock suspension seems ok for you but trust me when I tell you - you will not regret the Raven suspension mod for the $25 investment. No brainer.

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Old 06-11-2019, 08:38 PM   #42
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Wow. Welcome back Longboardr. Long time no see.
Thanks, the FZ1 has been pretty solid and dirt bikes have been getting most of my attention.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:43 PM   #43
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Bag brackets showed up today so I figured I might as well get them installed while I am waiting for my EXUP parts. Relatively easy, but their relocation location makes no sense. They could have so easily just provided a tab on the rack to put the signals close to where they were. The intended location looked like crap, so I made some minor mods to their brackets and shoved the lights forward a bit. Good enough for now, but this winter when I feel like painting I will weld a couple tabs to the bag brackets and put some after market lights on.
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Old 06-22-2019, 04:35 AM   #44
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This weeks tasks were minor. Oil change, swapped out the lock cores in the bags so that they all matched and pulled the dated looking stickers off the fairings.

After all the fun with the exup valve and a couple other things I'm seeing, I'm starting to realize that the bike is a little behind in maintenance. Couple days ago I pulled the 2 plugs I could get to without removing the tank and they were both terrible, black carbony - amazing to me that the bike runs with those things. Also had a weird vibration in the front, not too bad but running your hand over the tire it has an odd scalloping.

Ordered up Plugs - Autolite iridium, air filter, Exup cables, pair of new tires and some balance beads. Already have an extra set of brake pads that came with the bike. Also have a R6R shock kit coming from Dean - figured it can't hurt and I'm guessing the one on the bike is the 61K mile original. Other than that I suppose I should get some fork oil and seals and make sure to grease any greasable wheel bearings while it is apart.

Wasn't really planning on having to take this bike all apart right away, but it seems like at this point that I need a good maintenance baseline.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:27 AM   #45
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FWIW, I have the same top case and I installed LEDs along with the GIVI brake light kit. I get a full light spread when braking that I love.

These pics don't do them justice BUT will give you some idea.

Also, if you are refreshing the forks, respectfully suggest the Raven mod. Cost's nothing, is easy to do. You will appreciate the difference.

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Old 06-22-2019, 05:33 AM   #46
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FWIW, I have the same top case and I installed LEDs along with the GIVI brake light kit. I get a full light spread when braking that I love.

These pics don't do them justice BUT will give you some idea.

Also, if you are refreshing the forks, respectfully suggest the Raven mod. Cost's nothing, is easy to do. You will appreciate the difference.

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I thought that raven mod had to do with the rear suspension? I'm already getting an r6r shock and dogbones from dean.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:35 AM   #47
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R6 is a good call for the rear. The front mod is cheap. Long story short, you cut the spring to shorten it and replace the spacer to take up the space. Different weight oil and amount used. Reinstall while also moving the forks up the triple by 8-10mm and you are good to do. I'm looking up the links for it now.

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Old 06-22-2019, 06:12 AM   #49
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That doesn't look too bad. I was actually thinking of getting the traxxion spring kit for the front end. So I will have to think about that. Still need to order seals, bushings and oil.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:39 AM   #50
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A new spring correct for your weight will be better than the Ravenrider mod, if you’re so inclined. Also, after installing an AIS removal kit from either Dale or Ivan, you can then change all four plugs without raising the tank, if you still have the factory sparkplug tool. Either way, it’s the best tool to use for that purpose. Trust me on this. I can change all four plugs in five minutes without lifting the tank. After sliding the tool over a plug, you then turn it with a 14mm wrench, preferably the one in the kit.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:49 AM   #51
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Havnt even looked at what is in the under seat kit, pulled the outside plugs with a normal magnetic plug socket and a flex extension, but I'll take a look. Have to remove the tank anyways for the filter and exup cables this time.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:04 AM   #52
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Trust me on the tool. I have all sizes of spark plug sockets, extensions, u-joints, etc, and the Yamaha tool is the best. It is designed for the purpose.
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:44 PM   #53
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A new spring correct for your weight will be better than the Ravenrider mod, if you’re so inclined. Also, after installing an AIS removal kit from either Dale or Ivan, you can then change all four plugs without raising the tank, if you still have the factory sparkplug tool. Either way, it’s the best tool to use for that purpose. Trust me on this. I can change all four plugs in five minutes without lifting the tank. After sliding the tool over a plug, you then turn it with a 14mm wrench, preferably the one in the kit.
I ordered up the traxxion kit. I'm sure that the raven mod is fine, but in my world cutting progressive springs and heating them is frowned on. For $120 it seems pretty painless. Just need to figure out fork oil now. Seem to be a lot of opinions anywhere between 2.5 and 7 weight. Figure I will ask traxxion, lightest stuff they sell is 7.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:48 PM   #54
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Traxxion recommends 7wt for their AK20 cartridges. I think 10wt may be preferable for the stock cartridges. Just an opinion. Seems someone on here recently made that choice. I did just use 10wt on a Gen1 FJR when upgrading the springs, for what that's worth. My friend it was for was happy with the results.
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Traxxion recommends 7wt for their AK20 cartridges. I think 10wt may be preferable for the stock cartridges. Just an opinion. Seems someone on here recently made that choice. I did just use 10wt on a Gen1 FJR when upgrading the springs, for what that's worth. My friend it was for was happy with the results.
Got an email back from them this afternoon and they said 10wt as well. Must be a small company to be answering tech mail on Sunday, but I appreciate it.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:13 AM   #56
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FWIW- Im not sure but I seem to remember that fork oil wt and engine oil wt ratings are different.
Please feel free to correct me on that if I am wrong.
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FWIW- Im not sure but I seem to remember that fork oil wt and engine oil wt ratings are different.
Please feel free to correct me on that if I am wrong.
Sure this is about fork oil. And I bought a liter of 10w Maxima Fork oil to do the fork rebuilds - as well as new seals and bushings.

For engine oil I just used Rotella T6 - 5w40 if I recall - the guy who sold me the bike gave me a couple gallons of engine oil and a couple of oil filters with it.
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Cant go wrong if its fork oil.....I just didn't want you to use engine oil if its not rated the same.

Is it?
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Cant go wrong if its fork oil.....I just didn't want you to use engine oil if its not rated the same.

Is it?
10w Maxima Fork oil is what I'm using in the forks. Fork oil is different than engine oil
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So, this bike is turning into one of those - can't judge a book by the cover or beauty is only skin deep things. As shiny as the bike is, it looks like the plugs and air filter havn't been serviced in this decade. And as for that stock plug wrench - if I were trapped in a cornfield in the middle of nowhere, I'd consider whittling one out of a corn cob before I used that thing

For the outside ones a magnetic plug socket and short extension works fine. For the center 2 a 12" flex extension works great.
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