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Old 09-22-2017, 12:24 PM   #1
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Hi. There that wasn't too hard. My first post and all. I first noticed motorcycles when I was about 8 yrs old traveling quietly down the freeway when our car was surrounded by a pack of monsters. I dove for the floor, then peered out to see booming black cycles, riders with chains, tattoos, black jackets proudly proclaiming their proclivity for perdition by plastering "Hell's Angels" on their backs. I was horrified. One beast turned, grinned when he saw me and paced our car for a while, still grinning. Then with a roar, he took off after his mates. I watched for cycles ever since.
Didn't get one though, spent as much time as I could racing on horses down dry river beds, playing tag on horses in orange groves (dang, my horse was good, would crouch until I yelled go, go go! then took off like a bat). I also rode hunters and jumpers (5 feet is a TALLL fence).
One day not long ago, I was invited onto the back of an Fz1. But first I was told I had to have gear. So, Ebay brought me lovely (used) leathers, Held gloves & my beloved Sidi boots (squeaking nicely). A helmet too of course. Nice. Then for the ride. Wheeeeeeee!!!
I took alot of time getting technique. There is the initial death grip on the rider. Bad. Then grabbing hard with the legs (with horses, the trainer is always yelling MORE LEG!!). That worked OK, but the rider started getting sore hips from the grip. And I kept whacking the rider in the back with my helmet. So, I developed the way of holding tight to a grab bar with one hand, let one hold lightly to the rider's waist with the other, medium hold with the legs. The magic key is the tilt of the hips.
You've all seen those pics of girls posing on bikes with their scantily clad bods arching their backs and sticking their butts out ( a moment for salivation, dont drip on your keypads). Their is some truth to the pose. The arch!! Not that much of course, but I find it keeps me pinned forward. There is such danger in getting left behind with a launch! But that only happens with a rounded back. Never with correct form. Ohhh, and I quit giving low 5's at 60-70 mph....the wind drag!! There is so much more....I did call this opinions, PLURAL! But I gotta go to work now.......
Low Five All!
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:28 PM   #2
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This has left me deeply confused.

But good for the owner to require you wear gear. I always kept a spare set of women's gear for that exact reason.
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:36 PM   #3
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Glad you've discovered the thrill and enjoyment of riding. Welcome.
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:17 PM   #4
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:00 PM   #5
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I just spewed on the keyboard!

Timely post. Welcome new pillion member.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:01 PM   #6
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A wordy woman ? Either way welcome.
If you ride horses you know center of gravity and balance stuff. Riding with someone else takes time to gel, some know the flow and work with the rider after some time. Mine are occasional and use the one handed grab rail to be comfortable, when fast we get close. Braking freaks them out, grab rail time.
I know a fast couple, video of them would be educational. On a motorcycle too.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:05 PM   #7
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Sup girl! You into fitness?
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:23 PM   #8
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Not gonna read it again but don't believe it was ever stated that the OP was female. Jus sayin.
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Old 09-23-2017, 05:12 AM   #9
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Girls arching their backs had me dreaming.
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Old 09-23-2017, 07:23 AM   #10
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Motorcycle yoga is a thing nowadays
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Old 09-25-2017, 11:55 AM   #11
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Thanks for the welcome!! I was told initially to introduce myself, so that was what I was doing. Kinda.

There is so much to being a proper pillion rider. Hanging on tight or close inhibits the rider from any hanging off at all, both must lean. I simply try to make myself invisible and very predictable. I do lean, just not as much as the rider who may hang off a bit. It's alot of fun debriefing after a ride, as we enthuse over the highlights, and discuss corners where correction occurred. I love the carousels. And some stops do require double grab bars.

I haven't been into fitness, really. However, it just happens that my sports/hobbies/work require alot of activity, so I guess fitness is a by-product! Besides, doesn't everyone do pushups?

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I have been pillion on a Gixxer. Definitely NOT a safe feeling. Meant for solo.
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:50 PM   #12
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I share your opinions there. Sport touring style bikes like the FZ are, to me, the perfect street weapons. More than capable of exceeding sane and legal limits on the street, track capable when needed, and they allow you to comfortably enjoy the fun with your pillion.

You're spot on though about "so much to being a proper pillion". Smooth practice, good communications, and slowly working up the progress and building trust. In another thread someone mentioned how a great pillion can ease the workload of the pilot, which I have often found to be true as well. It can be a great dance!

Have you ever read anything on being good sport pillion, such as from Lee Parks or similar?
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:35 AM   #13
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Welcome to the new member/poster.

Use to ride with a buddy from work with a Ducati 748, who had a wife that had ridden horses all her life.

We had stopped for a break at a local state park.

He and I were sitting on the bikes waiting to leave when out of the corner of my eye I see her "mount" that Ducati like she was riding for the Pony Express.

She approached from the rear with a couple quick steps, put two hands on the bike's tail, and vaulted onto the passenger's spot (not really a seat on a 748), and landed like a butterfly.

I've never seen anyone do that before and was thinking if my wife ever tried that we would be laying in a pile of Yamaha.

In the end they went their separate ways over the horse. She was spending $40 large a year in Dressage training classes and stable fees.
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:15 AM   #14
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The haunches of a horse can handle that. The tail section of most bikes, probably not.

That kind of money would buy a lot of motorcycles. More fun, less poop.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:18 AM   #15
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The haunches of a horse can handle that. The tail section of most bikes, probably not.

That kind of money would buy a lot of motorcycles. More fun, less poop.
Not to mention a iron horse doesn't have a brain, and is incapable of throwing you off on purpose. I tell it what I want, and it does it.
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The haunches of a horse can handle that. The tail section of most bikes, probably not.

That kind of money would buy a lot of motorcycles. More fun, less poop.

The part I left out was that she was a gorgeous 1/16 American Indian living in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Her long lost tribe with relatively few documented members owns a casino near LA.

She received a five figure check every quarter. So it was my buddy who walked away from the money and the poop.
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Was it king crimson?
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