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Old 03-10-2018, 07:07 PM   #81
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Thought I would post this here since I posted about the Supertech 9688 here. That filter is for pretty much every Honda car, picked one up today for my Civic. I took the old filter off and let the oil drain a while, never had the new and the old filters side by side to compare. New one screwed on, same thread, but when I started my car I lost about all the oil in the 30 seconds before I shut it off. 20lbs of kitty litter and a bunch of time latter here are the filters side by side. Same part number, totally different filter. The new one is the blue one, I did notice the color changed but it now is shorter, fatter, and has a lip on it that apparently bottoms out before the o-ring seals. I'm sure it wouldn't work on an FZ either.
So no more Wal-Mart filters for me. I can't believe more people aren't having this issue. Any lawyers on the forum want to help with my lawsuit.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:58 PM   #82
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Did you check to see if SuperTech had changed the number for the Honda filter in the new SuperTechs?
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:00 PM   #83
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The computer at Wal-Mart that does the cross reference still lists the Supertech 9688 as the filter for my car.
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:15 PM   #84
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Yeah it would be stupid for them to change it. Is the gasket diameter the same?
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:21 PM   #85
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I use the Fram ToughGuard TG7317 or Bosch 3323 on Honda cars and Yamahas. It's the longer one that fits. Next time at Wal-Mart open one of those up and compare to the sealing surface of the ST9688.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:59 AM   #86
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:37 PM   #87
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I use the Fram ToughGuard TG7317 or Bosch 3323 on Honda cars and Yamahas. It's the longer one that fits. Next time at Wal-Mart open one of those up and compare to the sealing surface of the ST9688.
Hey Bill, been running that Bosch 3323 on the bike and CRV since the old Super Tech's went away. Recently the bike started dripping oil, about 2k since the last filter change. It was coming from the oil filter mounting point. Replaced it with a HiFlo obtained from a local speed shop. Maybe the o-ring/gasket developed a problem.

Will get a new Bosch later and compare it to others. Hopefully they haven't changed them too.
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Hey Bill, been running that Bosch 3323 on the bike and CRV since the old Super Tech's went away. Recently the bike started dripping oil, about 2k since the last filter change. It was coming from the oil filter mounting point. Replaced it with a HiFlo obtained from a local speed shop. Maybe the o-ring/gasket developed a problem.

Will get a new Bosch later and compare it to others. Hopefully they haven't changed them too.
I've mainly been using the Fram ToughGuard. It's not the base model, and appears to be well made. All the info I've found on it has been good. The grippy surface on the base comes in handy too. I use it on my Accord, FJR, and FZ1 when I had one.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:44 PM   #89
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The Bosch works on the Civic, that is what I put on, but I've had a Bosch drip on the FJR.
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:56 PM   #90
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those are what I stick to. never a problem. my Wix experiment ended in spilled oil, in their defense the free second one did not. didn't buy another
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:01 AM   #91
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no love for the fram XG7317? i love that it fits both my fz1 and subaru outback.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:54 AM   #92
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Using the Mobil M1-110 also. All I know is it fits and seems to be a decent filter. Fits my Super Tenere also, and is slightly shorter, which makes it easier to get on and off both bikes. Hopefully they don't mess with it's design. Paranoid now, I always open the box and look at the base before buying.
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:37 AM   #93
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Partshark's OEM filter $8.20 is cheaper than Autozone Mobil M1 filter $10.80.

Certainly doesn't make sense to pay $10 shipping just for 1 filter but if I'm buying something else I usually pick up two or three filters to get me through the season. The OEM black filters look better if it makes you feel better to think of them as bling.
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:49 AM   #94
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I get the Mobil M1 filter at Walmart for $6.80. Wallyworld has some good deals on oil and filters, if they happen to have what you need - their selection is a bit limited. Rotella T6 and the Mobil filter and I am outta there
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:00 PM   #95
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I can confirm that the ST 9688 will not fit the FZ... at least not in the new blue filters. It hits the oil cooler pipes before it even lines up with the threads. Good thing Walmart has a very liberal return policy.

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Old 03-18-2018, 01:00 AM   #96
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I get the Mobil M1 filter at Walmart for $6.80. Wallyworld has some good deals on oil and filters, if they happen to have what you need - their selection is a bit limited. Rotella T6 and the Mobil filter and I am outta there
haha yeah this. wally world doesn't always have it, but if they do hell yeah
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:06 AM   #97
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I have one good Purolator left and then I'll have to find a new brand. I had caught a really good sale on the old style ones before the change, and since at the time my car and FZ1 and FJR all 3 used the same filter I bought a dozen. They've lasted a while since I ended up selling the car and the FZ.
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I use the Fram ToughGuard TG7317 .... on Honda cars and Yamahas.
That is what I have been using for several years as well since the old Super Tech ST7317 went away at Wal-Mart and the Bosch filters were redesigned with that raised threaded base plate that bottomed out on the FZ1 before the gasket sealed.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:49 PM   #99
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In five pages of this thread no-one has addressed the number/size of the holes around the mounting hole. I'm not a filterologist so I dunno if these are the return side or the supply side. On page one Old Sparks showed a Fram with many large holes, and a Bosch with fewer and smaller holes. Does this matter? It seems as if the flow thru the Fram would be much greater...

If this is an idiotic question please say so. I use the Fram Ultra Synthetic on my Civic and Accord. The Civic gets an oil change every 5,000 miles (7 months or so) because it is driven on many very short trips. The last two oil changes on the Accord were at the one year mark and both were around 1,000 miles. It's a warranty thing. Mobil 1 Extended Performance in both.

Right now I'm too chicken to try anything else than a MC filter. Yamaha or K&N...
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:09 PM   #100
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I had a talk about 15 years ago with two former Mobile 1 engineers. They told me then that their synthetic oil was good enough to last as nearly a lifetime oil or at least several tens of thousands of miles. They said they couldn’t advertise it as a multi year or lifetime oil because the automotive OEMs would never go along with it. I find it interesting now they sell their extended life product as a one-year interval or 20,000 miles.

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