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Old 09-24-2018, 02:34 AM   #1
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Looking for a good quality digital caliper

I have a digital caliper from harbor freight, made in China but is very inaccurate the first time I used it while riveting the new chain, I am going to do a valve adjustment & want to have everything I need before diving into this major job.

What is a good accurate quality made caliper do you guys recommend?
brand and price?

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Old 09-24-2018, 04:38 AM   #2
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Gonna be needing this:
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:46 AM   #3
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Mitutoyo digital caliper, made in Japan. I bought used on ebay many years ago. Now, if you buy new, watch out for Chinese counterfeits. If the price seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Starret, made in USA, makes a good dial caliper. I actually use my dad's old Starret most of the time.
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:50 AM   #4
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Use a Starret when it counts. I don’t trust digital ones, very rarely do they reset to 0 after measuring, so you can be sure the final value is off. My dial Startet goes back to zero every time, so all measurements are consistent.
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:52 AM   #5
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Wait.. how will you need to use a caliper for a valve adjustment?
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Old 09-24-2018, 05:12 AM   #6
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I'll need the caliper to measure the shims, I already ordered the feeler gauge, I saw Mitutoyo digital caliper for $126.00 on Amazon or this https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/86487592
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Old 09-24-2018, 05:12 AM   #7
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Wait.. how will you need to use a caliper for a valve adjustment?
I don't 100% trust the thickness markings on the shim. I prefer to measure the new and old shims for the true difference. I'll occasionally measure the feeler gauge and make sure thats not lying to me either

I use a micrometer instead of a caliper.
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Old 09-24-2018, 05:45 AM   #8
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Use a Starret when it counts. I don’t trust digital ones, very rarely do they reset to 0 after measuring, so you can be sure the final value is off. My dial Startet goes back to zero every time, so all measurements are consistent.
I don't like digital calipers either. If there's anything on the measuring surface when zeroing, your measurement will be off by that amount.
When closing a dial caliper, if there's anything on the measuring surface, the needle won't be on zero. Some things are just better done the old way.
For measuring valve shims, I also believe I'd use a micrometer.
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Old 09-24-2018, 05:57 AM   #9
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Use a Starret when it counts. I don’t trust digital ones, very rarely do they reset to 0 after measuring, so you can be sure the final value is off. My dial Startet goes back to zero every time, so all measurements are consistent.
That's because you are using shit digital ones.
I use Japanese made Mitutoyo digital calipers for years and they work flawlessly.
I use them daily at work and they have never let me down.
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I have a digital caliper from harbor freight, made in China but is very inaccurate the first time I used it while riveting the new chain, I am going to do a valve adjustment & want to have everything I need before diving into this major job.

What is a good accurate quality made caliper do you guys recommend?
brand and price?

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Mitutoyo Japanese made ones are what you are after.

I have coolant proof ones that I use every day and they work flawlessly.

https://www.mitutoyo.co.jp/eng/produ...u/hyojyun.html
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:02 AM   #11
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I don't 100% trust the thickness markings on the shim. I prefer to measure the new and old shims for the true difference. I'll occasionally measure the feeler gauge and make sure thats not lying to me either

I use a micrometer instead of a caliper.
This. Micrometer with a torque limiting screw. Accurate, consistent, and repeatable. The proper tool.
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:12 AM   #12
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I'll need the caliper to measure the shims, I already ordered the feeler gauge, I saw Mitutoyo digital caliper for $126.00 on Amazon or this https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/86487592
Oh, DUH!!! I guess because I've never actually needed to *change* shims, I'd overlooked that part of the job! lol...
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:06 AM   #13
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Micrometer.
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:22 AM   #14
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Thanks, guys, what brand of a micrometer? I prefer metric

is this a good choice?
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/04081394
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:33 AM   #15
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That's because you are using shit digital ones.
I use Japanese made Mitutoyo digital calipers for years and they work flawlessly.
I use them daily at work and they have never let me down.
No, I use a dial Starret. I’ve used cheap and expensive digital micrometers. If there’s one thing you can depend on, it’s that digital one letting you down. No telling how old my Starret is, was a hand-me-down from my dad, was used to build engines for 24H cars.
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I recently picked up one of these at HF. It is the exact same as the one you can pick up at Home Depot or any other hardware store. So far, it has worked well for me. It has metric and standard. Just be sure ABS mode is off. It's all in the destructions.

https://www.harborfreight.com/digita...ter-63647.html
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:41 AM   #17
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Great, I discovered HF store is 7 miles away from where I live.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:37 AM   #18
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I have a digital caliper from harbor freight, made in China but is very inaccurate the first time I used it while riveting the new chain, I am going to do a valve adjustment & want to have everything I need before diving into this major job.

What is a good accurate quality made caliper do you guys recommend?
brand and price?

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I always figured the HF digital caliper was good enough for shims. I think there is more error in me determining the gap in-between the valve and shim based on "feel" from the drag of the feeler gauge than any caliper is going to give you. I have also tested my HF caliper against the expensive calibrated ones at work and it is very close.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:47 PM   #19
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I prefer dial calipers, My favorites are from McMaster Carr and have both Metric and Inch needles.

Every time I grab a set of digital it seems like the battery is dead.
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