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Old 03-07-2018, 07:35 PM   #41
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On a side note, after April 1 2018, Avon will stop providing mileage warranties on their tyres, it's been replaced by a road hazard warranty that lasts for the first 1mm of wear or 1 year, which ever comes first.
That's some funny chit right there!
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Old 03-30-2018, 03:32 PM   #42
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Engelwood Fla. My brother lives there. What do you ride? He's got an XR650 I gave him over last Thanksgiving.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:42 PM   #43
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Just an update, got the Avon Storm 3D XM for the rear in the stock size. Will report back every couple thousand miles.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:10 PM   #44
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Great article.

Everyone is ohhh and ahhhh ing over the PR5 but the Dunlop Roadsmart 3 was just released last year and Dunlop and testers have said their RS3 will last approx 20K/12K front/rear and not lose performance/profile as steeply when mileage goes up.

Gloryracing, did you mount up an RS3 (Someone on the forum did, I swear) ? What was your impression, ya tire shredder?

180 Michelin Pilot 5 is 195$ https://www.ridersdomain.com/motorcy...orcycle-tire-p
180 Dunlop Roadsmart 3 is 169$ https://www.ridersdomain.com/motorcy...orcycle-tire-p
180 Bridgestone T31 is 155$ https://www.ridersdomain.com/motorcy...orcycle-tire-p

Bet there isn't 25$ worth of extra mileage in the Pilot 5 honestly, but the Pilot 5 does have this cool feature I guess: "A USED 3k mi. Road 5 tire stopped on a water soaked road in the same place as a BRAND NEW Pilot Road 4 tire thanks to the revolutionary patented MICHELIN XST Evo water drop sipes, which grow wider mile after mile." The Pilot (Road's) main selling and marketing point since the PR3 is its wet weather performance and wet weather braking. That's all they tout now. And the OP says he doesn't care about wet weather capability.

Any reason more rain sipes (grooving) would cause less tire temps and less wear overall? (I would think not, I'm sure engineers did things with belts and layers and such to keep at optimal temp even with more grooves)


I have no cat in this fight, I just grab whatever deal I can find. Currently on my first ever Roadsmart 2 I picked up for 100$ new. No opinions yet
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I had to get a set of Roadsmart 3 tires mounted up during our recent FJ Central rally in Arkansas. I finished off a pair of Metzeler Roadtec01 tires sooner than I anticipated. One trip from Jasper, Ar to Push Mountain Road and back took a much greater toll than i expected. 😉 As much as I loved the performance of the Roadtec 01s, I could not fault the stickiness of the Dunlops at all. They do seem to have a slightly deeper tread pattern, so I'm hoping to get a little more life out of of them. I only had the rear end step out on me one time due to sand on the road, but nearly everyone else in the group had the same thing happen to them as well.

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Old 06-17-2018, 04:52 PM   #45
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Great article.

Everyone is ohhh and ahhhh ing over the PR5 but the Dunlop Roadsmart 3 was just released last year and Dunlop and testers have said their RS3 will last approx 20K/12K front/rear and not lose performance/profile as steeply when mileage goes up.


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1) you put them in the trunk of our leased Jettas for 2 years
2) 5 cross country trips in a UPS cargo plane counts
3) trailering to all your good roads and counting those miles

4000 on mine just looked, rear almost gone and front cupping badly. I also blame Jasper to Push Mountain and back. 16,125 and 74 too.
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:42 PM   #46
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20k/12k... that's almost as funny as Avon's 1mm of wear or 1 year whichever comes first.

I would bet the farm that every attendee to this years AR spring ride scrubbed off at least 1mm the first day. Nope...the first morning!
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:54 PM   #47
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20k/12k... that's almost as funny as Avon's 1mm of wear or 1 year whichever comes first.

I would bet the farm that every attendee to this years AR spring ride scrubbed off at least 1mm the first day. Nope...the first morning!
That’s actually a fairly accurate fact, I scrubbed off 3.5mm in 3 days last week. Yeah... I actually measure that kind of crap, lol.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:00 PM   #48
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The motorcycle tires that get the longest life are these babies - Heidenau or Mitas ADV bike tires. Over 20K miles on them is pretty common. They wear like iron, and, apparently grip like iron in the wet and howl like a beagle in heat at highway speed. People love 'em though.

Not available in FZ1 sizes, however
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:45 PM   #49
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That’s actually a fairly accurate fact,
Well yeah...everything I state is fairly accurate.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:50 AM   #50
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:45 PM   #51
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Quick update, just shy of 4000 miles on the rear (39xx) and the tire has .227" rear tread left, from the factory its .250 (1/4 aka 8/32nds) so I've used less than 1/32nd (.03125") in 4000 miles, looking good so far.

Also just put on the Avon Sprint ST for the front, supposed to be better than the 3D X-M.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:06 PM   #52
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I just removed a set of Roadsmart 3's with 5063 miles on them. Someone could get a few thousand more off the rear, the first and ONLY rear tire I've had that did not flat spot in the middle.
The front is cupping and thin in the middle.

In summary: these live a little longer but not as much as advertised, perhaps a conservative old dude could do better.

They also tried to throw me on the tarmac with surprising consistency, anytime I wanted grip on the sides.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:58 PM   #53
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I just removed a set of Roadsmart 3's with 5063 miles on them. Someone could get a few thousand more off the rear, the first and ONLY rear tire I've had that did not flat spot in the middle.
The front is cupping and thin in the middle.

In summary: these live a little longer but not as much as advertised, perhaps a conservative old dude could do better.

They also tried to throw me on the tarmac with surprising consistency, anytime I wanted grip on the sides.
That's odd they tried to dismount you, I ran them on the FJR and they took everything I threw at them. Maybe Andy will chime in with how they are wearing.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:39 PM   #54
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I've only used PR4s til now. Just removed a front one with 10k miles on it that had a couple more thousand left in it. Same with rears. Switched to a Power RS front and a Road 5 rear. We'll see how long they last.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:41 PM   #55
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I have them on the FJR also, they feel OK on that bike. This bad match was the R1200RS, back to Metzler. I never ride the Feejer so it always feels like a loaner, not familiar.

Shinko is highly promoted at the local dealer. Road 5's are $199 rear like the Roadtec. I'm doomed to 5K tire swaps if we do Arkansas twice a year, it was 3000 so we are advancing. Or slowing.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:48 PM   #56
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I've only used PR4s til now. Just removed a front one with 10k miles on it that had a couple more thousand left in it. Same with rears. Switched to a Power RS front and a Road 5 rear. We'll see how long they last.
We should have created a spread sheet years ago, location is the biggest variable. Ride N. Georgia or Arkansas at pace constantly and poof, gone.

The 5's are next when supply drops here.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:55 PM   #57
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We should have created a spread sheet years ago, location is the biggest variable. Ride N. Georgia or Arkansas at pace constantly and poof, gone.

The 5's are next when supply drops here.
Well, the last tires which did 10k each went to the tail of the dragon at least 5 times, North Georgia mountains about 3-4 times etc.
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:55 PM   #58
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I got 14,400 miles out of a Dunlop Roadsmart 2 rear tire. Traction was good for all around riding but will finally let go when pushed really hard.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:33 AM   #59
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We should have created a spread sheet years ago, location is the biggest variable. Ride N. Georgia or Arkansas at pace constantly and poof, gone.

The 5's are next when supply drops here.
Yep, a spreadsheet would be good to keep track. Location would seem to be a significant variable, with those chip seal roads in Arkansas and elsewhere really chewing tires prematurely. By comparison, the roads here in N. Ga. are mostly baby butt smooth, or so it seems from what I've read.

Riding style, and not just speed, has a large impact on tire life as well. Riding a spirited pace doesn't have to mean burnouts, whacking the throttle on/off, and maximum effort braking in/out of every turn. I've noticed my own riding smoothness will vary depending on mood, but at least these days I can choose how aggressively I ride.

Interested to hear what you think of the 5's.
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