Maintenance gets expensive - Page 2

**Desmo** · 05-05-2012, 01:33 PM

It's the ban count.

benc2022 · 05-05-2012, 01:48 PM

DPNonafiz · 05-05-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flbusa

Yep... As a matter of fact I do.

Really you don't have to do anything. After having a Busa for close to 7 years I can tell ya that so many people want to race ya that when someone on an FZ1 comes along you just let 'em go by.

LOL, It got so bad at one time that I would start playing with people. Let them inch by me and then right when they think they've got me beat... I'd roll on the gas and leave 'em in the dust.

As former busa owner I'll say thats about right !

terdog · 06-30-2012, 10:53 AM

OP, just wondering...
And dont take this the wrong way, but how many bikes have you owned, with what kinda mileage?

ER^NPILOT · 06-30-2012, 03:47 PM

Popcorn, where's the soda, gonna be a long night....

750nut · 06-30-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by benc2022

Try re-reading original post. I've decided, through my own experience, that this expensive oil does wonders for my machine. Now I want to know if aftermarket oil filters have any added benefit. I'm not simply trying to spend a lot of money, but if I view its worthwhile, then I will.

http://www.ajusa.com/K-and-N-Oil-Fil...93eq13c7d.html KN-204C.jpg

KN-204.jpg 9.45 for black or 11.19 for chrome.. I like the brand, and I like the fact the nut on the end of the filter is same size as the drain plug. I use them. ps. Maintainance is expensive .. I never want to add up all the reciepts- I have stacks. But the bike runs just fine, so is life..

eflyguy · 06-30-2012, 08:27 PM

K&N gets pretty poor reviews..
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ZachD · 06-30-2012, 08:29 PM

I buy Mobil 1 15/50 @ Walmart for like $25 for a 5 quart jug. So an oil change is less than $30. I use an OEM filter.

750nut · 06-30-2012, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eflyguy

K&N gets pretty poor reviews..
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what is the biggest fault with them? what filter is superior and, why?

ER^NPILOT · 07-01-2012, 03:21 AM

Filters differ on construction quality, filter media type, amount of filter media surface area etc....

K&N does get beat out by Purolator Pure One and the Mobil1 filter.

This being said, your bike will run a million miles using Rotella and K&N. I however buy the Pure One and use Rotella T6.

TJ 351 · 07-01-2012, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benc2022

Try re-reading original post. I've decided, that this expensive oil does wonders for my machine. Now I want to know if aftermarket oil filters have any added benefit. I'm not simply trying to spend a lot of money, but if I view its worthwhile, then I will.

Does "wonders" for my machine...
Oil either does what the machine engineers designed it to do or it fails to do what was designed to do. It does not "do wonders".
If you would like an explanation of oils and filters from a mechanical engineer in engine design , PM me.
I won't post up in this forum - which is filled with half truths and sometimes outright witch doctor class opinions - along with a sprinkling of fighting, emotionalism, and one-upsmanship.
Been there... done that.... useless.

terdog · 07-01-2012, 08:31 AM

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this forum - which is filled with half truths and sometimes outright witch doctor class opinions - along with a sprinkling of fighting, emotionalism, and one-upsmanship.

WDD · 07-01-2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ 351

this forum - which is filled with half truths and sometimes outright witch doctor class opinions - along with a sprinkling of fighting, emotionalism, and one-upsmanship.

If you're talking specifically about oil and oil filters - yeah, there is a lot of that - but there is a lot of good information as well.

The reality is that I've never heard of anyone loosing an engine because of picking the wrong oil or a filter failing.

The person most qualified to talk about what engine oil to use is probably Denise, who has 200,000 miles.

CrazyBiker · 07-01-2012, 08:05 PM

I tried other brands but my bike runs and shifts smooth with Shell Rotella T6 and Purolator Pure One Gold

Blind Spot · 07-01-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyBiker

I tried other brands but my bike runs and shifts smooth with Shell Rotella T6 and Purolator Pure One Gold

I bought my first Purolator Pure One filter for my Gen II when to my shock I found out that Walmart no longer carries the ST7317.

I'm sure it does a great job filtering, but what I have noticed is that my cold starts all sound like that first restart after you do an oil/filter job with the huge amount of valvetrain noise, just not as long (not enough oil pressure/air pocket).

You notice this with yours? I don't seem to recall this with the ST7317, almost seams like the drainback valve in the filter isn't working right.

750nut · 07-01-2012, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ER^NPILOT

Filters differ on construction quality, filter media type, amount of filter media surface area etc....

K&N does get beat out by Purolator Pure One and the Mobil1 filter.

This being said, your bike will run a million miles using Rotella and K&N. I however buy the Pure One and use Rotella T6.

After 1 million, probably need an overhaul anyway..

"witch doctor class opinions - along with a sprinkling of fighting, emotionalism, and one-upsmanship."

terdog · 07-01-2012, 10:35 PM

Seems like quite a few people think that mc's are some sort of delicate flower.
In over 500k miles on street bikes, many over the 60k mark when sold, I have never had a issue other than wear & tear type stuff.

eflyguy · 07-02-2012, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Spot

I bought my first Purolator Pure One filter for my Gen II when to my shock I found out that Walmart no longer carries the ST7317.

I'm sure it does a great job filtering, but what I have noticed is that my cold starts all sound like that first restart after you do an oil/filter job with the huge amount of valvetrain noise, just not as long (not enough oil pressure/air pocket).

You notice this with yours? I don't seem to recall this with the ST7317, almost seams like the drainback valve in the filter isn't working right.

Switching to another filter would be a cheap way to check?
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jethro · 07-02-2012, 11:04 AM

If you pour a bottle of this in your tank you will easily best any Hayabusa:

ZachD · 07-02-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jethro

If you pour a bottle of this in your tank you will easily best any Hayabusa:

Really? Awesome. But, what about a ZX-14?..

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terdog Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 1,067	OP, just wondering... And dont take this the wrong way, but how many bikes have you owned, with what kinda mileage?

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ER^NPILOT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 441	Popcorn, where's the soda, gonna be a long night....

06-30-2012, 08:29 PM	#28
ZachD My life is my message!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SoCal, for now.. Posts: 1,784	I buy Mobil 1 15/50 @ Walmart for like $25 for a 5 quart jug. So an oil change is less than $30. I use an OEM filter.

07-01-2012, 03:21 AM	#30
ER^NPILOT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 441	Filters differ on construction quality, filter media type, amount of filter media surface area etc.... K&N does get beat out by Purolator Pure One and the Mobil1 filter. This being said, your bike will run a million miles using Rotella and K&N. I however buy the Pure One and use Rotella T6.

07-01-2012, 10:35 PM	#37
terdog Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 1,067	Seems like quite a few people think that mc's are some sort of delicate flower. In over 500k miles on street bikes, many over the 60k mark when sold, I have never had a issue other than wear & tear type stuff.

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