MIVV GP Carbon Installed (pics) - Page 2

allanscott · 04-02-2012, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_RC_1

Your bike is look'n gooood. I love the looks of all the Mivv slipons.

Gotta wonder if that odd mid-pipe realy makes a difference. I know what Mivv claims but I'd love to see dyno runs with a normal midpipe vs. Mivv.

Anyway, if I were to buy a high dollar slipon, the Mivv GP or Suono would be my choice just for the looks. To bad they don't make a full system for the FZ1.

Hmmm, $460 for an arrow header + $510 for Mivv Suono..... One of these days

How about LV1evo2 carbon or stainless from Leo Vince I saw the stainless for 339.00 with free shipping, those pipes sound great.

Phil_RC_1 · 04-02-2012, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanscott

How about LV1evo2 carbon or stainless from Leo Vince I saw the stainless for 339.00 with free shipping, those pipes sound great.

Yeah, that Leo looks great too. Even though I prefer the Suono, I got a good deal on a used GP Carbon from Rafartist

Can't wait to get it on.

rafartist · 04-04-2012, 06:45 PM

Phil you should have it friday or saturday at the latest in case you didn't get my email. I cant see you being dissapointed with it and Abe57 and Black Hornet will vouch for the condition, i just rode with those guys 2 weeks ago. I didn't get a chance to scotch brite it but i cleaned it up real good with the hose and a rag outside. It was getting late and i wanted to have it boxed up and ready to go to the post office first thing in the morning for you. Thanks again for being patient man and if you ever need anything dont hesitate to ask.
And for anyone that doesn't know this guy, he is a straight shooter and a valuable asset to the board. Cant ask for any more patience than this guy has. I had a terrible time with shipping on the V&H and he paid and waited 2 weeks on me.

Phil_RC_1 · 04-08-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rafartist

Phil you should have it friday or saturday at the latest in case you didn't get my email. I cant see you being dissapointed with it and Abe57 and Black Hornet will vouch for the condition, i just rode with those guys 2 weeks ago. I didn't get a chance to scotch brite it but i cleaned it up real good with the hose and a rag outside. It was getting late and i wanted to have it boxed up and ready to go to the post office first thing in the morning for you. Thanks again for being patient man and if you ever need anything dont hesitate to ask.
And for anyone that doesn't know this guy, he is a straight shooter and a valuable asset to the board. Cant ask for any more patience than this guy has. I had a terrible time with shipping on the V&H and he paid and waited 2 weeks on me.

I picked it up Saturday. It looks great. I guess I'm now a MIVV GP guy too. Robert, I will do business with you anytime!!

My subjective view is that with the dB insert out, it's a tad louder with a deeper tone then my 14" Delkevic (Which was just right!!), but still not too loud. The insert is just waaayyyy too quiet!! If, over time, the loudness gets to me, I may try to modify the insert with a shorter and larger diameter outlet to quieten it a little but not too much.

Compared to my Delkevic, I think the GP has a top-end power advantage,,, the front wheel just comes up too easy at 8K

Phil_RC_1 · 04-11-2012, 08:00 AM

Don't mean to hijack your thread dr dralion, but instead of starting a new thread, thought I'd post here since my Q's and Comments are about the same pipe.

Rode into work Monday without the dB insert. After a few minutes, I decided it was just too loud, barely, but still louder then I'm comfortable with. Monday night I installed the dB insert, now it's just way too quiet and it has to be stiffling the exhaust flow to an unhealthy degree. I cut the downturn off (about 1.5") of the dB pipe and it has to be flowing better but still too quiet, barely louder then stock!! I think my next step will be to cut out the small 1" diameter outlet pipe, and weld in a 1.75"Dia. pipe shaped similar to the original. Hopefully this will let it breath better, without getting too loud.

Anyone else mucked around with modifying the dB insert on the carbon GP?

eflyguy · 04-11-2012, 01:05 PM

What is this 'too loud' condition you keep talking about?

..a

CopperDog · 04-11-2012, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_RC_1

Anyone else mucked around with modifying the dB insert on the carbon GP?

I did about the same as you have described but for slightly different reasons. With my db killer out the bike has a waivering idle but that is, as I understand it, because I have the original straight-thru mid pipe without those two resonators. I cut the end off of the insert to where you describe and the idle is smooth but I was considering doing what you mention about a larger insert pipe but I have not done it yet.

rafartist · 04-11-2012, 05:05 PM

I considered it Phil but it was too dang pretty to take the chance for me to "cut" it up. I wonder if you could get like one of those cone shaped spark arrestors (screen type) that they use to make dirt bikes legal and tack that screen onto the db killer after you hollowed the whole thing out? Now that this V&H has broken in, its loud as hell and im considering modifying the db killer too that came with it. Its real close to sounding like a ghetto ass Hayabusa with the slash cut tip as a muffler. I love the sound cause it really sounds like a Moto GP bikes pipe but I hate hearing un muffled harleys and sport bikes with ridiculous sounding exhausts. I always rode with earplugs Phil so I never really noticed how loud the Mivv was.

Phil_RC_1 · 04-24-2012, 06:17 AM

I finally got around to modifying the Mivv dB insert. First I tried just cutting the insert because the way it is bent, the opening of the insert was close to parrallel with the sidewall of the muffler. There was probably only a 1/2" or so of clearance, plus the little 1.2" pipe is so small, this had to be killing performance, and it was no louder then stock.

I decided to replace the original 1.2" pipe with a 1.75" pipe and use a milder bend. I used a holesaw to cut a wooden insert for the pipe to hold the larger holesaw center. I used a bimetal holesaw to cut the 1.75" hole then welded in a piece of 1.75" pipe. As it is now, the new dB insert just knocks the edge off the sound of the Mivv. It's still a little louder then my old Delkevic 13" but just barely. The loudness of the Mivv with the modded insert is juuuuust right!

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rafartist · 04-24-2012, 07:04 AM

Thats awesome Phil

Kman719 · 04-28-2012, 09:50 PM

Looks good. May give that a try later this summer. Thanks for the pics!

Gamecock · 03-15-2013, 09:21 AM

Question:

So when you removed the midpipe and disconnected the EXUP did you leave your EXUP cables? Or do you go up to the Servo motor under the tank and disconnect and take them out completely?

I'm about to my my Carbon MIVV on this weekend and just wanted to see what the majority is doing.

Fizzman · 03-15-2013, 09:29 PM

The cables come off in about three seconds. Why leave them on? The Exup motor can stay. If you remove it with out plugging in an exup eliminator, you will get a check engine light.

Gamecock · 03-24-2013, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizzman

The cables come off in about three seconds. Why leave them on? The Exup motor can stay. If you remove it with out plugging in an exup eliminator, you will get a check engine light.

That is what I did. I followed Copperdawgs video which was perfect. This thing sounds perfect with the Db killer, although my pipe is a different shape (oval with conical end) than the OP's. eventually I'll put an Arrow header on with it.

rkt jky · 04-05-2013, 05:27 PM

i took off a dale walker to put a mivv carbon gp on my gen 1, put a mivv carbon gp twin on my r1 and my gen 2 had one on when i bought it; didn't mind paying up for that. my first two came from pj, i don't know if the third one did. yeah i am a mivv fanboy. and i have always ditched the db killer.

eflyguy · 04-05-2013, 07:34 PM

I also preferred how it revved with he DB killer removed, it felt "stifled" or restrained with it in. Is that possible?
..a

rkt jky · 04-05-2013, 08:42 PM

obviously, if you restrict a 2.5 inch tube to a 1.5 inch opening you will hinder the flow of gasses especially at top end. that is why a 12L diesel motor has a 6 inch exhaust pipe. yeah it only revs to 2200 rpm but each cylinder is 2L displacement. and just for fun the turbo produces 26 psi of boost... too bad the truck weighs 16 tons :/

Void · 04-05-2013, 10:44 PM

I have one of these (Mivv CF GP) for sale in the classifieds. I modded my stock DB killer in a similar fashion by cutting the angled tip off as you did. I also added "slits" to the remaining tube section using a dremel and a cutting wheel. This way there is a bit more flow and sound. Tames the Mivv down enough to keep the neighborhood happy yet still plenty loud at WOT.

kitcrazy · 05-01-2013, 01:05 PM

Hi guys do you have to have the fueling done afther installing the mivv or any dyno?

Gamecock · 05-01-2013, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcrazy

Hi guys do you have to have the fueling done afther installing the mivv or any dyno?

No.

04-04-2012, 06:45 PM	#23
rafartist Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,898	Phil you should have it friday or saturday at the latest in case you didn't get my email. I cant see you being dissapointed with it and Abe57 and Black Hornet will vouch for the condition, i just rode with those guys 2 weeks ago. I didn't get a chance to scotch brite it but i cleaned it up real good with the hose and a rag outside. It was getting late and i wanted to have it boxed up and ready to go to the post office first thing in the morning for you. Thanks again for being patient man and if you ever need anything dont hesitate to ask. And for anyone that doesn't know this guy, he is a straight shooter and a valuable asset to the board. Cant ask for any more patience than this guy has. I had a terrible time with shipping on the V&H and he paid and waited 2 weeks on me. __________________ 07 lineX'd,Dan Moto modded pipe,no flies,chopped box,Tag metals copper bars with SV mounts,HEL lines,punched cat,delrin sliders,15t,no o2,no exup,swingarm mounted tag,hidden key switch,smoke taillight,integrated mirrors,bark busters,Hayabusa headlamp,custom made guage bracket,wrapped headers,pc111 with stage 3 smoothed map,06 R1 forks brakes and shock,08 r1 dog bone to raise the rear,fce,copper shorty levers,soon to be bare bars except for clutch lever and brake setup

04-11-2012, 08:00 AM	#25
Phil_RC_1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mid Tenn USA Posts: 159	Don't mean to hijack your thread dr dralion, but instead of starting a new thread, thought I'd post here since my Q's and Comments are about the same pipe. Rode into work Monday without the dB insert. After a few minutes, I decided it was just too loud, barely, but still louder then I'm comfortable with. Monday night I installed the dB insert, now it's just way too quiet and it has to be stiffling the exhaust flow to an unhealthy degree. I cut the downturn off (about 1.5") of the dB pipe and it has to be flowing better but still too quiet, barely louder then stock!! I think my next step will be to cut out the small 1" diameter outlet pipe, and weld in a 1.75"Dia. pipe shaped similar to the original. Hopefully this will let it breath better, without getting too loud. Anyone else mucked around with modifying the dB insert on the carbon GP? __________________ 09 FZ1 MODIFICATIONS: Performance: MIVV Carbo GP, Gutted Cat, Pipercross filter, FP V-Stacks, Super Duper Air box mod, 16T, PCIII w/Ivans map, Ivan's Flies, FCE. AEM A/F monitor, Blindspots fuel line mod. Soupy's lowering link. Non Performance: Heal Tech speedohealer, AIS blockoff, ZG SR windscreen. Convenience: 12volt power port, cig lighter, Top speed recall button, FZ6 handlebars. Safety: The grey matter between my ears, Plate Brake light, Rainbow headlight cage.

04-11-2012, 01:05 PM	#26
eflyguy FZ1² Join Date: May 2010 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 14,472	What is this 'too loud' condition you keep talking about? ..a __________________ '01 FZ1 set up for distance '07 FZ1 set up for fun (both in the faster blue) Which would you prefer?

04-11-2012, 05:05 PM	#28
rafartist Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,898	I considered it Phil but it was too dang pretty to take the chance for me to "cut" it up. I wonder if you could get like one of those cone shaped spark arrestors (screen type) that they use to make dirt bikes legal and tack that screen onto the db killer after you hollowed the whole thing out? Now that this V&H has broken in, its loud as hell and im considering modifying the db killer too that came with it. Its real close to sounding like a ghetto ass Hayabusa with the slash cut tip as a muffler. I love the sound cause it really sounds like a Moto GP bikes pipe but I hate hearing un muffled harleys and sport bikes with ridiculous sounding exhausts. I always rode with earplugs Phil so I never really noticed how loud the Mivv was. __________________ 07 lineX'd,Dan Moto modded pipe,no flies,chopped box,Tag metals copper bars with SV mounts,HEL lines,punched cat,delrin sliders,15t,no o2,no exup,swingarm mounted tag,hidden key switch,smoke taillight,integrated mirrors,bark busters,Hayabusa headlamp,custom made guage bracket,wrapped headers,pc111 with stage 3 smoothed map,06 R1 forks brakes and shock,08 r1 dog bone to raise the rear,fce,copper shorty levers,soon to be bare bars except for clutch lever and brake setup

04-24-2012, 06:17 AM	#29
Phil_RC_1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mid Tenn USA Posts: 159	Modded dB insert I finally got around to modifying the Mivv dB insert. First I tried just cutting the insert because the way it is bent, the opening of the insert was close to parrallel with the sidewall of the muffler. There was probably only a 1/2" or so of clearance, plus the little 1.2" pipe is so small, this had to be killing performance, and it was no louder then stock. I decided to replace the original 1.2" pipe with a 1.75" pipe and use a milder bend. I used a holesaw to cut a wooden insert for the pipe to hold the larger holesaw center. I used a bimetal holesaw to cut the 1.75" hole then welded in a piece of 1.75" pipe. As it is now, the new dB insert just knocks the edge off the sound of the Mivv. It's still a little louder then my old Delkevic 13" but just barely. The loudness of the Mivv with the modded insert is juuuuust right! . __________________ 09 FZ1 MODIFICATIONS: Performance: MIVV Carbo GP, Gutted Cat, Pipercross filter, FP V-Stacks, Super Duper Air box mod, 16T, PCIII w/Ivans map, Ivan's Flies, FCE. AEM A/F monitor, Blindspots fuel line mod. Soupy's lowering link. Non Performance: Heal Tech speedohealer, AIS blockoff, ZG SR windscreen. Convenience: 12volt power port, cig lighter, Top speed recall button, FZ6 handlebars. Safety: The grey matter between my ears, Plate Brake light, Rainbow headlight cage.

04-24-2012, 07:04 AM	#30
rafartist Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,898	Thats awesome Phil __________________ 07 lineX'd,Dan Moto modded pipe,no flies,chopped box,Tag metals copper bars with SV mounts,HEL lines,punched cat,delrin sliders,15t,no o2,no exup,swingarm mounted tag,hidden key switch,smoke taillight,integrated mirrors,bark busters,Hayabusa headlamp,custom made guage bracket,wrapped headers,pc111 with stage 3 smoothed map,06 R1 forks brakes and shock,08 r1 dog bone to raise the rear,fce,copper shorty levers,soon to be bare bars except for clutch lever and brake setup

04-28-2012, 09:50 PM	#31
Kman719 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 59	Looks good. May give that a try later this summer. Thanks for the pics! __________________ 09 FZ1 - Mivv gp w/o silencer, AIS block, unkinkable fuel line mod, mag-knight tank bra, Satan Pegs, SpeedoDRD, Proton turn signals.

03-15-2013, 09:21 AM	#32
Gamecock Welcome back Vale! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 5,991	Question: So when you removed the midpipe and disconnected the EXUP did you leave your EXUP cables? Or do you go up to the Servo motor under the tank and disconnect and take them out completely? I'm about to my my Carbon MIVV on this weekend and just wanted to see what the majority is doing. __________________ 2012 Yamaha FZ1 in White 2006 TT-R50 2009 Zuma 125 To those dead souls inching along the freeways in their metal coffins,...... ..we show them that the human spirit is still alive.

03-15-2013, 09:29 PM	#33
Fizzman No tickets today! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,183	The cables come off in about three seconds. Why leave them on? The Exup motor can stay. If you remove it with out plugging in an exup eliminator, you will get a check engine light. __________________ 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD 400E, '79 400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

04-05-2013, 05:27 PM	#35
rkt jky wanna buy a vowel? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: VEGAS BABY! Posts: 1,274	i took off a dale walker to put a mivv carbon gp on my gen 1, put a mivv carbon gp twin on my r1 and my gen 2 had one on when i bought it; didn't mind paying up for that. my first two came from pj, i don't know if the third one did. yeah i am a mivv fanboy. and i have always ditched the db killer. __________________ 2008 FZ1 MIVV carbon gp, mid-pipe, fake-zzos, 16t, raised forks, sliders, k&n, air box mod, cut flies, velocity stax, copperdawg blinkers and c/f undertail thank you P/O.

04-05-2013, 07:34 PM	#36
eflyguy FZ1² Join Date: May 2010 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 14,472	I also preferred how it revved with he DB killer removed, it felt "stifled" or restrained with it in. Is that possible? ..a __________________ '01 FZ1 set up for distance '07 FZ1 set up for fun (both in the faster blue) Which would you prefer?

04-05-2013, 08:42 PM	#37
rkt jky wanna buy a vowel? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: VEGAS BABY! Posts: 1,274	obviously, if you restrict a 2.5 inch tube to a 1.5 inch opening you will hinder the flow of gasses especially at top end. that is why a 12L diesel motor has a 6 inch exhaust pipe. yeah it only revs to 2200 rpm but each cylinder is 2L displacement. and just for fun the turbo produces 26 psi of boost... too bad the truck weighs 16 tons :/ __________________ 2008 FZ1 MIVV carbon gp, mid-pipe, fake-zzos, 16t, raised forks, sliders, k&n, air box mod, cut flies, velocity stax, copperdawg blinkers and c/f undertail thank you P/O.

04-05-2013, 10:44 PM	#38
Void Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 49	I have one of these (Mivv CF GP) for sale in the classifieds. I modded my stock DB killer in a similar fashion by cutting the angled tip off as you did. I also added "slits" to the remaining tube section using a dremel and a cutting wheel. This way there is a bit more flow and sound. Tames the Mivv down enough to keep the neighborhood happy yet still plenty loud at WOT.

05-01-2013, 01:05 PM	#39
kitcrazy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 2	fueling Hi guys do you have to have the fueling done afther installing the mivv or any dyno?

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