Speed Bleeders - Is one make better than others?

[dukeracr]

It seems a number of different manufacturers make Speed Bleeders for motorcycle brake systems. Is one make better than any other. Recommendations?

Thanks

Rich

[dukeracr]

Russell and Goodridge are two companies that offer speed bleeder fittings besides the Speedbleeder brand.

[Razorback]

I've used the Goodridge ones on both Harleys and Triumphs and were happy for what they were.

[SAFZ1]

I've got speedbleeders on the CBR. Work as advertised. Just make sure you install on a full system because to bleed them you need the fluid to open the valve.

[dukeracr]

Originally Posted by SAFZ1

I've got speedbleeders on the CBR. Work as advertised. Just make sure you install on a full system because to bleed them you need the fluid to open the valve.

Yeah I knew that was important. Thanks.

[abe57]

got Russell's on mine and they work great..

[DPNonafiz]

a gizmo in the pressurized brake system does not seem smart to me . Maybe Im overly cautious about my brakes but what would happen if that check valve failed under hard braking ?
Bleeding brakes the conventional way is NOT that hard. I dont even need a gadget or pump for that ,just a helper to squeeze the lever and keep fluid level up while i open/close bleeder.

[eflyguy]

Originally Posted by DPNonafiz

a gizmo in the pressurized brake system does not seem smart to me . Maybe Im overly cautious about my brakes but what would happen if that check valve failed under hard braking ?

The valve is not in play. Once you've bled the system, you screw the bleeder in all the way just like a regular one. At that point, the system is closed..

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[Blacksport]

Originally Posted by DPNonafiz

a gizmo in the pressurized brake system does not seem smart to me . Maybe Im overly cautious about my brakes but what would happen if that check valve failed under hard braking ?
Bleeding brakes the conventional way is NOT that hard. I dont even need a gadget or pump for that ,just a helper to squeeze the lever and keep fluid level up while i open/close bleeder.

I don't use speedbleeders either, DPN; but you do NOT have to ever worry about the check valve failing under hard braking. Once the bleed screw is tightened, the check valve no longer can work; it only works when the bleed screw is backed off it's seat. Check the drawing from Russell I've attached.

One thing you do have to be careful of: only loosen the speedbleeder 1/4 turn, too much and air can seep in around the threads.

[CrazyBiker]

Well DPN, it is a royal PITA to bleed the brakes without these installed or without a vacuum pump. The helper will be ready to whip your ass at the end of the job, LOL. I have been running the speedbleeders for almost 25k miles now between two bikes without any issues. They are the first mod I do to my bikes.

[DPNonafiz]

Originally Posted by CrazyBiker

Well DPN, it is a royal PITA to bleed the brakes without these installed or without a vacuum pump. The helper will be ready to whip your ass at the end of the job, LOL. I have been running the speedbleeders for almost 25k miles now between two bikes without any issues. They are the first mod I do to my bikes.

Actually my wife is the one that helps me .. She must be good at it cause Ive gotten best results doing it this old fashioned way. Where is your mess coming from ? At the bleeder or up top?

[CrazyBiker]

Originally Posted by DPNonafiz

Actually my wife is the one that helps me .. She must be good at it cause Ive gotten best results doing it this old fashioned way. Where is your mess coming from ? At the bleeder or up top?

Sorry I didn't get the question...

I did ask my wife to help the 1st time and at the end of it both of us were frustrated and disgusted at the amount of effort it took epsecially when bleeding a system from dry.

[DPNonafiz]

Originally Posted by CrazyBiker

Sorry I didn't get the question...

I did ask my wife to help the 1st time and at the end of it both of us were frustrated and disgusted at the amount of effort it took epsecially when bleeding a system from dry.

Surley you mean filling an empty system ,not bleeding a dry one.
Gravity and patience are your freind when filling new lines. The fluid will make it to the bottom just open both bleeders and wait while keeping the m/c full , then let it drain a little .If you're lucky the system will be air free and no bleeding /pumping required.
Its really not hard.

[flbusa]

Originally Posted by dukeracr

It seems a number of different manufacturers make Speed Bleeders for motorcycle brake systems. Is one make better than any other. Recommendations?

Thanks

Rich

I'm pretty sure that there's only one company that makes speed bleeders and that companies like Russell and Goodridge just augment their product offerings with speed bleeders.

You can get speed bleeders from Spiegler as well.

[Cougar8000]

Originally Posted by flbusa

I'm pretty sure that there's only one company that makes speed bleeders and that companies like Russell and Goodridge just augment their product offerings with speed bleeders.

You can get speed bleeders from Spiegler as well.

I sell the Original Speed Bleeders and buy them direct from them. https://mishacycles.com/store/Speed_Bleeder/

I have had them on most of my bikes and they are freaking amazing to say the least. They do make bleeding a walk in the park that can be done on the side of the road in less then 5 min and you do not even have to get dirty.

I do have them in stock. and efly is correct as well.

[flbusa]

I think it's important to mention that you need to have the system partially bled in order to overcome the check valve spring in the speed bleeders. You'll never be able to bleed a dry system with the speed bleeders in place without the help of a vacuum pump.

[Super Googan]

Originally Posted by flbusa

I think it's important to mention that you need to have the system partially bled in order to overcome the check valve spring in the speed bleeders. You'll never be able to bleed a dry system with the speed bleeders in place without the help of a vacuum pump.

True words of wisdom !

[DPNonafiz]

Originally Posted by Super Googan

True words of wisdom !

you guys ever hear of gravity? and the best part,its free?

[Super Googan]

Originally Posted by DPNonafiz

you guys ever hear of gravity?

Yes !! I have !! Ever fart in the bathtub ??? The bubbles rise...just like the little air bubbles trapped in brake lines and especially at the fittings.
Gravity wont do much to get them out. A vac pump will !!!!!

I've gravity bleed brakes many times...........then I stopped doing it the hard and SLOW way ! The light bulb in my head went off and I woke up and bought a cheap vac pump.
Sure you can gravity bleed for hours and then pump the lever 10,000 times while tapping the fittings to release trapped air. The question is why would you want to ?
Hours of my time are worth buying a $30 vac pump. I could dig a 20 foot deep hole in my back yard with a spoon if I wanted to. You might be smart and buy a shovel. Me ..............I'll rent a backhoe

[DPNonafiz]

Originally Posted by Super Googan

Yes !! I have !! Ever fart in the bathtub ??? The bubbles rise...just like the little air bubbles trapped in brake lines and especially at the fittings.
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dont fart near your brake calipers then !
Question for you?
What is the difference if you suck fluid down with your pump thing as opposed to pushing fluid down with the brake lever ?
Dont both methods give same results ?